Playing console games on CRT while recording gameplay on PC recommendation

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  1. helakustorm

    helakustorm Robust Member

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    There is a possibility to play console games on a CRT TV and record/capture the gameplay on a PC? (not pointing a camera to the TV)
    If yes, what devices do you recommend or use?
    This thread refers only to CRT TVs not SD TVs or HD TVs.

    Thanks!
     
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    awbacon Robust Member

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    Yes, but I use a PVM. RGB in and RGB out via BNC to JP21 into Framemeister.

    For a consumer CRT, just use adapters. If you can do RGB I’d use that for the quality, then adapt it to HDMI. Split the HDMI out...one into a capture device, and the other HDMI to whatever input you would want to use for the CRT.

    If you can get a PVM it’ll be much easier. More expensive for tv but in the long run easier
     
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    Nully Dauntless Member

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    $2 DVD recorder from Goodwill should work.
     
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    helakustorm Robust Member

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    I need a device analogue to analogue that have video capture abilities to PC.
    I was thinking to a setup like this: consoles are connected to a device through RGB SCART then the TV is connected to the device through RGB SCART and something to the PC (for video capture); I want the video connection to remain RGB SCART between consoles and TV.
    From what I've read the Framemeister and OSSC have RGB SCART input but doesn't have RGB SCART output, only HDMI because they offers digital video signal.
     
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    la-li-lu-le-lo ラリルレロ

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    You could just use a SCART splitter. Connect the output of the consoles to the splitter, then connect the outputs of that to the CRT and the capture device.
     
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    Someone suggested me to use a DVD player with 2 SCART connections that have input and output and 1 COMPONENT output.
    SCART input connection will be used for the consoles through RGB SCART, SCART output connection will be used for the CRT TV through RGB SCART and COMPONENT output connection will be used for a capture device.
    My question for this setup: the video quality on the TV will decay because the consoles were connected through a DVD player?

    Thanks!

    P.S. la-li-lu-le-lo interesting recommendation.
    Could you post a link or an image with the splitter? Thanks!
     
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    la-li-lu-le-lo ラリルレロ

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    EDIT: I posted a bunch of stuff, but it's irrelevant because I found the thing I'm describing. This: https://www.amazon.co.uk/SPLITTER-Connect-devices-Joiner-Adapter/dp/B018UDUNZU

    I don't know if that one in particular is any good, but this is the type of adapter I'm talking about. You want something like that rather than a "switch", because a switch will only connect to 2 devices at once, rather than 3 – which is what you need.
     
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    helakustorm Robust Member

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    I saw that adapter on Ebay.
    The father connector will go to the TV and one mother connector will be used by consoles and the other one will be used by a capture device, correct?
    What capture device do you recommend for SCART and PC?

    Thanks!
     
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    I think you can connect each of the connectors to whichever of the 3 devices you want, since they're all connected. You just need to make sure the genders of the connectors are appropriate for the cables/devices you're using. If they aren't, you could use a female-to-female adapter and/or male-to-male cables.

    I can't really tell you anything useful about capture devices. The only suggestion I can give is that if you want good quality, you'll probably have to pay more. If the device is cheap, the quality probably won't be very good.
     
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    helakustorm Robust Member

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    By the way, I've read on a forum some minutes ago about the voltage on SCART splitters.
    If you connect two devices with a simple SCART splitter the image will go dark...
    You need a more powerful device like an amplifier (SB-3715 I think it's good) than a simple SCART like that adapter :(
    I'll document myself and see what's going on.
     
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    Yeah, I guess you're right about that. In that case, what you would need is a splitter with a built-in amp; I don't know if those exist.
     
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    Yeah, that should work, except I'm guessing that thing is kind of expensive. If that's the case, then something like a DVD recorder might actually make more sense – unless it's really important to get the best quality possible.
     
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    Unfortunately that device is needed for the setup.
    After this, I need to find a capture device to support SCART connection and some connection to PC...

    To tell you the truth I like to play on my Sony Trinitron :(
    It's sad that what I want is not feasible or achievable and I need to resort to Framemeister or OSSC with a capture device or something.
     
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    Well, whatever the distribution amp costs, it’s still probably less than a Framemeister. I’m just guessing, though.
     
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    That is correct la-li-lu-le-lo but I don't find a capture device to accept SCART and some real facts, those amplifiers are no longer manufactured (if you find one the price is very high)...
     
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    The Micomsoft sc-512n1-l/dvi does RGB at 240p, you just need a sync stripper like the Sync Strike, which will output via the VGA connector. Works fine. The capture card also has passthrough so you can monitor the video on a TV without another splitter. Not cheap, but you aren't in cheap territory right now.
     
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    I have the Shinybow SB-3715 and it work perfect for me.
    Playing on CRT with streaming/recording over the framemeister to PC is np.
    The AMP do a great job. If tests many adapters and stuff before.
    For me the best result is this AMP.
    I ordered it directly over the shinybow shop.
     
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    Unfortunately they don't have it in stock anymore.
    About playing on CRT and streaming/recording over the framemeister to PC, what soft do you use or what device to capture the video, Elgato?
    Didn't know that you can record using only framemeister and connecting it to PC.
     
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