PlayStation 1 / PSone Colour Correction Modification

In that case using a PS2 might be another solution. To my knowledge PS2 under normal circumstances at all times encodes color output to NTSC whenever rendering 60hz, and PAL whenever rendering 50hz.

I'm not aware of exceptions or software/hardware mods to override this.

Still I could be wrong! Surely one of you can confirm? :gravedigging:

 

AH come on guys, we're more mature than this! If it takes continuous posts to help someone so be it. We all learn at different rates don't we not?

I don't usually post in threads where people are at each other but, please I know you're all better than that.

I believe Haunted is still learning modifications much like I'm just learning soldering now.. Unless I'm missing the reason why everyone is yelling at him, but that's not why I'm posting here.

Take it easy guys :nod:

 

Difference is, you don't post here telling people how to solder or decide you are building a super computer from components by soldering the boards youself and taking donations to buy parts - all before you learned to solder in the first place.

 

running before learning to walk seems to be haunted's thing

 

I guess that is a correct assumption. lol.

 

Hey we might end up confirming a potential design difference between PS1 and PS2. I've laid out my basic idea. Now just the wait for someone able to verify it.

 

Ah the PS2 ... The PS2 has video mode (and chroma carrier) completely under software control.

So when a game decides to output PAL video you will have proper PAL video on the output and that's all about it. :thumbsup:
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Yeah, I like that about the PS2.

 

Didn't some early PAL PS2 titles use real PAL60 (DoA2 Hardcore, from memory)?

Also, someone once told me that the 70000/90000 PAL PS2s output PAL60 instead of NTSC at all times. Is that true?

 

Well I got my SCART cable, and it is pure shit.

The cable is SO CHEAP!!!!

I have interference, a loud humming sound and the quality is exactly the same as composite what I was running before. There is a tiny improvement, but not what I expected. Compared to the RGB mod I did on my other TV and ran my megadrive through, it is not right.

It would be easier if I opened up the damn PS1, soldered directly to the RGB and CSYNC (and GND) lines and made a custom port myself!

lol. When you buy cheap quality, you GET cheap quality...

Requesting that the seller issues me a refund or halves the price...

 

I already gave you a link to a good cable. I have bought loads of them.

Also, if your TV doesnt support RGB, scart will only give you composite anyway.

Scart caries both and if the tv doesnt support RGB, it will use composite, which is what it sounds like is happening.

 

Might it be your tv?

I have official cables that cost me £12, i have unofficial cables that cost me £0.25 - when running them through my tv their is no noticeable difference in quality, and if their is its only noticed when inspecting the image rather than gaming as i have never noticed

 

I remember the option being labelled as "PAL60" as you say in some games, but it is still NTSC anyway. You can verify this if you use an RF, composite or S-video cable on a PAL PS2 and then switch the mode; if it really is PAL60, the game should still be in colour. If the colour disappears and you get black and white, then it is just standard NTSC.

As for your second question, the PS2's video mode in games is determined by the game, and no PS2 ever outputs PAL60 by default, regardless of the revision. Therefore it is impossible to always have the console output a specific video mode without some form of software/hardware modification, unless your games are of course only ones designed for that mode. It would actually be rather stupid of them to make a PAL console output 60Hz by default, as some gamers in these territories still have older 50Hz-only television sets.

 

Wow, huh. I didn't expect to be right when I'd suggested that was the case. I'm improving at the whole "hunch" thing. :love2:

 

Actually, PAL games may set up the video output (It's 100% programmable FYI) to output 60hz video while still keeping the color format as PAL-B/G/I compatible. Like I said on earlier posts, the thing is 100% software configurable. :thumbsup:

About what was said to you, it's well possible that it's result of the said units having modchips installed in them. As that matches the behavior of a MATRIX modded PS2 console configured to keep the color system settings "frozen".

 

Is that not just "PAL60"? Like I said before, that was never utilised for any game as far as I can tell, even for those that name the 60Hz option in game as "PAL60". And this is why those without a component/RGB cable on a PAL PS2 will just get a ridiculous black and white image. Only GSM and perhaps some modchips (like the Matrix that you mentioned) provide that PAL60 option.

 

Thanks for the info, guys. That clears up some stuff me and my friends have guessed about our PAL PS2s over the years.

 

How many new TVs sold today don't accept ordinary NTSC60?

 

That boils down to SONY not allowing games access the hardware directly and being forced to rely on SONY ready made libraries for reverse compatibility reasons. :thumbsup:

These limitations are obviously imposed by SONY policies, not for hardware issues. :nod:

 

Sorry for the huge bump, but I wanted to share that I have a modded SEGA Megadrive II with the 60 Hz switch.
http://www.mmmonkey.co.uk/console/sega/md2switches.htm

When it is in 60 Hz mode, the TV has many scrolling vertical lines, and it becomes Black and White.


This means it was the TV the whole time right?
It cant support 60 Hertz.

That is why I needed the crystal.