Playstation yes but I'm still confused

That's exactly what they are, right?
I had that term on the tip of my tongue (oem), just couldn't get it off of it.

 

The point is that the decisions by SCEA were not the same as the decisions made by SCEI.
As this is a Japanese console, I feel that the Japanese side defines the console. Not some branch overseas. This includes the other SONY branches like SCEE and SCEH.

But was it called the "PSX" after release?

No PS2 had those lol. So they are exclusive peripherals.

 

I have one of these, though mine is slightly different from the ones in the picture (mine looks like the one on the left, but the d-pad is like the one on the right). It's pretty good controller; the d-pad is way better than the standard PS1 d-pad. The ASCII controller's d-pad is more similar to a Saturn or Genesis d-pad. My only problem with it is the L and R buttons. They're kind of weirdly shaped and feel rather crappy. Still, I'm glad I got this controller, because it makes playing games that only use the d-pad much more enjoyable. I was using a Hori controller before I got this one, but the d-pad on the ASCII controller is better.

 

1 So what's your point? Your theory about the X button isn't true. It was called psx by scej. That's my point.
2 Beside my point.
3 No they aren't as they are included. They're part of the package. The color doesn't change the fact that the white ds2 is still the same old ds2. And a remote is hardly a gaming accessory. The hdd isn't a periphereal as it's part of the machine. You might as well call the instruction manual an exclusive periphereal, as well as the composite cable and warranty flyer.

 

Then explain why only the export sets (i.e. outside of Japan) had it flipped. Someone once wrote that it was originally circle too, until sometime in 1993.
Like I wrote earlier, the decisions made by the SONY branches overseas wasn't always the same as SCEI's. So if SCEA calls the PlayStation the "PSX", it doesn't mean the SCEI did.
If the PSX was ever released in the US, I'm sure that it would have gotten renamed to avert this confusion.

Yeah, but when? It's a known fact that some of their consoles went by different names during development (i.e. "PSX2" for the PlayStation 2 and "NGP" for the PSVita), only to be released under something else. Hence why I was asking you, when did they call it that.
So if SCEI named it "PSX" during development but "PlayStation" after release, it's still called the "PlayStation".
On the other hand, it seems well-known as the "PSX" in the US.

There was once some discussion on this topic on this forums, but I can't find the thread.
Perhaps other people who lived through that era can comment on this. But it is not the point of this discussion.

It wasn't part of the PlayStation 2 itself, but an accessory. Neither did it come in sizes, other than 40GB.

If you don't want to consider it a different machine because of its similar functionality, despite the fact that it was released by SONY (instead of SCE), has a significantly different mainboard, different purpose and different accessories (which function exactly the same as the original and might not be used for gaming), okay; it is the same machine.

 

Hi guys, just wanted to say this thread was about the pads and my query was answered. I'm all for a debate, even a good old fashioned heated debate but I have never seen the original PS/PS1/PS ONE/PSX debate won by either side. Everyone has their beliefs and everyone has their own version of why they are right. Seems to me Sony should release a statement and clear it up for us but for now I think you guys need to agree to disagree or (if it's not been done yet) start a new thread and see what facts people can produce in order to come up with the final actual answer, that could be interesting!

 

Like you wrote, it is subjective when there is ambiguity. I never want to debate on it, as my intent was to talk about the unique accessories that the PSX came with (which originally had some link to the conversation, a few posts back).
Even if nobody here would want to even try to see things from my point of view, it's okay.

 

It was well known as the PSX in the UK too. Everyone called it that at the time.

Pretty sure people have even posted clips from magazines calling it that from the era.

However, you are quite right about regional differences from SCEE/SCEA/SCEI. Look at the modchip detection - it disables itself on European machines, apparently because SCEE thought it was stupid to punish people using legit discs on a modded console.

 

The reason it's so heavily known as PSX is cause thats what SCEA marketed it as for a long time, "PlayStation eXtream" or some such.
With that said tho it wasn't ever released with that name or even marketed with it after its releases so IDK.

Also the Vita was code named NGP but internally its PSP2.

But yea once the real PSX was released then I feel it has claim to the name, Which BTW what does that stand for? I doubt its still PlayStation eXtream.

EDIT: In fact I think we are seeing something like this with PS VR since it was widely known as Project Morpheus.

 

I think the X in PSX stood for 'XrossMediaBar' as it was the 1st Sony console to use the interface. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSX_(video_game_console)

 

In the 90s and early 2000s, the first PlayStation was public known as PSX in part because that was the trade acronym for the console from an early point was PS-X - an acronym created by Sony when initially referring to the console whilst it was in development. Initially, PS-X meant PlayStation eXperimental during development, and the acronym was used in press events. When questioned what the 'X' stood for, Sony reps in the US said the X standing for 'eXtreme', in a typically 90s American way.

As such, when magazines started covering the PlayStation, they would call it 'PS-X', such as on this issue of popular UK magazine 'Edge':


Trade magazines such as MCV in the UK commonly referred to the PlayStation as PS-X too, eventually dropping the hyphen to be just 'PSX', by which point 'PSX' became the common acronym for the console in both trade papers and popular journalism. When I was working in Virgin Megastores around the time of the PlayStation, the chart listings, the MCV trade magazine, and our internal stock-keeping and ordering system all listed the PlayStation by the acronym PSX. When the PS2 came out, as did the PSOne, this acronym was often replaced with the more logical 'PS1', but people around during the early days still call it the PSX.

I swear the naming of the PS2 PSX, whilst 'backronymed' by Sony to refer to the XrossMediaBar, is simply an oddity created by Sony because they liked the name and which, much like the Xbox One and the Wii U, seems to exist solely to confuse people. I expect this won't be the last time people ask 'why PSX?'

 

Well, SCEI were the people that designed the system and decided to make the magic numbers for a PlayStation 1 executable correspond to the ASCII string "PS-X EXE" - so trying to suggest that this was somehow a name that was invented by SCEA seems doubtful. On top of this, all the developer tools CDs I've ever seen put the platform tools for the PlayStation 1 into a directory called "psx" and the tools themselves had "psx" in their names (I.E. 'aspsx', 'ccpsx').

Incidentally, the DESR was not produced by SCEI - they supplied the PS2 technology, but the machine was designed and built by Sony's home electronics division.