ps3 ceche01 ULTIMATE COOLING MOD!!

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  1. I AM ME

    I AM ME Spirited Member

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    hey everyone! this is the current mod im working on. its a backwards compadible ps3 that will have coolermaster heatsinks on the cell and the rsx and ram heatsinks on the rest.

    here is where im at,

    the heatsinks and fans:
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    half of my mounting system:
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    i taped the mobo so that there would by no touching of the bolts:
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    yay long ass bolts:
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    unfortunatly i didnt get any pics of me putting the heatsinks on...soooo here is a picture of after i got them hooked up and i was testing to see if the mobo still worked:
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    oops lol fan resistor kinda exploded:
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    fans all wired in and working ( note: my dremel cutting bit didnt get here yet so the bolts are still alot longer than they will be ):
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    more wireing:
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    wiring:
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    where im getting the 12v from, the dvd drive!:
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    another thing i goofed up, dripped this fan while it was on and i broke the fan, i gorrilla glued it back on and so far no problems:
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  2. ASSEMbler

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    So is one fan pulling or are they both blowing to the center?
     
  3. I AM ME

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    yea the one with the wire over it ( the one by the use ports ) is pushing and the other is pulling
     
  4. A Toubib

    A Toubib Midnight Xbox Crew

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    Do you have any way to record how much cooler it was than before? It'd be a cool bit of info if you could get it.



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    Also did you change the thermal paste? The one Sony used on the OEM Chinese made consoles were crap. The compound dried up fairly fast and it sort of looked like toothpaste (it was also splattered about poorly). On the Japan consoles they applied it better and they used a better compound, but even still I'd still recommend removing the old and putting some new paste on if you haven't since its fairly easy.
     
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  5. I AM ME

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    i wish i could...any sugestions on that? and yea, i have some cheap thermal paste but these heatsinks came with some pretty decent stuff, ita still in progress so any sugestions are appriciated
     
  6. I AM ME

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    so work has been suspended till next week due to shipping and shit, ive bought for this project alone:
    500gb hdd
    dremel
    dremel tool kit
    2 coolermaster heatsinks
    24 ram heatsinks
    screwdriver kit
    new disk drive assembaly
    potentiometer

    most is all here,
    im just waiting on the ram heatsinks, apperantly its a holiday in japan or someing,disk drive,dremel kit, and the rotary potentiometer
     
  7. dans87

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    how are you going to case this thing , & how loud is it ?
     
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    its surprisingly quiet at max fan speed. and im going to cut the stock case so that these poke out the bottom
     
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    Congratulations on destroying backwards compatible PS3.
     
  10. I AM ME

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    i havent destroid shit, i got this thing with a broken heatsink and broken dvd drive and ylod, im makeing it work, so fuck you
     
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    Well, you didn't told it was YLOD with broken BD. Back at the PS3 launch it was very difficult for me to get 60Gb one, I spend a shitload of money and traveled half of my country to get one. It's still here with me, working, my shiny precious CECHA. And yes, I feel sorry for every destroyed backwards-compatible console, because they aren't manufacturing them.
     
  12. A Toubib

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    I wish I had some, I've looked around and it looks like there is little/no software yet (that I know of) that can get the readings from the PS3. If you have a laser temp gauge it would work though.



    Not to rain on your love for BC PS3s but CECHA, CECHB, and CECHE's are not very reliable consoles. (By PS3 standards). They are notorious for running hot, and the crappy lead free solder Sony used to meet EU regulations was wayyy to brittle to handle the heat on and off. The backwards-compatible part of the console is fairly useless as the picture quality is poor and it stresses the console out. Theres a good reason Sony stopped manufacturing back-comp consoles and it's because they added a ton of cost, lowered the reliability, and the BC didn't work all that well.

    What the OP is doing as a matter of fact isn't destroying a BC PS3, he's preserving one. In OEM Sony Manufactured form a lot of early console PS3s are on their way to failure.
     
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    FTFY.

    You make it sound like sony picked crap solder, which isnt true.
     
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    as usual the EU screwing things over by sticking their noses in
     
  15. TriMesh

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    It's not really even the fault of the RoHS solder - the basic problem is that historically very little attention had been paid to matching the thermal expansion coefficients of the BGA substrate material and the PCBs they were mounted on. Since it didn't seem to be causing any practical problems, nobody worried about it. Then you had a whole bunch of things happening together - one was the widespread adoption of RoHS solder, others were the shift towards fine-pitch packages and the increased tendency towards high clock speeds and high dissipation parts in consumer electronic systems where the use of effective cooling systems was made difficult through noise considerations.

    Now people have started examining this problem, it's become obvious that stress induced cracking had been a problem for some time even with PbSn solders - it had just never reached the point where it became a widespread enough problem to make people take notice of it. Addressing the root cause (I.E. matching the chip carriers to the PCB) eliminates the cyclic stresses and makes the lower ductility of RoHS solders a non-issue.
     
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    CECHA and CECHB were never released in Europe, obviously no need to follow "EU regulations" there.
    CECHE is not backwards compatible, as all other PAL PS3's. (I mean real PS2 hardware emulation, PSX was always software)
    All of them are hot because of 90nm process technology for CPU and GPU. More heat - more problems, read TriMesh post.
    I can not agree on poor PS2 picture quality on backwards compatibility consoles, do you have some proofs? PS2 picture is crystal clear from what I see (you can even remove post processing and achieve exactly same quality as on real PS2 hardware). There are few compatibility problems though (for instance Traveler Tales Crash Bandicoot hangs).
     
  17. I AM ME

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    the eu compiant solder caused both the YLOD and RROD problems becuase it would either crack and wouldnt touch the motherboard or it would honeycomb out and touch other bits of solder and on the bc ps3s kinda sucked, i believed sony patched it but still wasnt as good as a ps2. example:



    this and the fact it wouldnt play all games made it not worth it
     
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    I did say it was a combination. I am fed up of explaining it's not a "too hot" problem (that's a massive over simplification) so my explanations are getting shorter and shorter over the years.
     
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    Did you even bother to read description of that video? :)
    "FIXED in firmware 1.50!
    PS1/PS2 upscaling in 1.80! But it's not REAL upscaling. Why? Cause the polygons themselves aren't rendered in high def, the entire image output is just put through a filter to make it look upscaled. The same method is used for upscaling DVD picture quality to 720p/1080i/1080p.

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    The glitch shown in this video only occurs on firmwares earlier than 1.5!"
     
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  20. A Toubib

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    Yes they would, you think that if Sony designed a console for years with PB solder that they could just switch to lead free solder within a couple of months? Absolutely not, when making a console that sells in millions they have to test for years to make sure the console is good to go to the public. Sony takes the strictest rules from each region and that's what goes into the console. They can't just switch once production starts that would be immensely expensive. (and risky)


    Plug a PS2 into your TV with a component cable (not composite), then plug a PS3 with a HDMI or component cable. Play the same game. You'll notice a drastic difference immediately. It's been well recorded that PS3 output of PS2 games is poor. You can adjust the settings willy nilly, but it will never output as good as a PS2. Some games can get near the same quality as the PS2 (I believe God of war 2 looked the same), and with upscaling and such you can get it to look as best it can on a HDTV which normally stretches picture, but even still the best quality picture is on a PS2 with component. If I get time I'll try to grab pictures of the difference.

    For support here's a vid:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoCD9TwLrVs

    Here are some threads:

    http://community.us.playstation.com...ge-quality-have-1-70-how-to-fix/td-p/13359874

    http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-3/PS2-Game-Image-Quality/td-p/19576724

    http://community.us.playstation.com...s-Backwards-Compatibility-Image/td-p/11597555

    http://community.us.playstation.com...-quality-are-less-than-expected/td-p/19056536




    Edit:
    Yea, that was just my bad explaination. Sony and Microsoft would of loved to use the cheaper, more reliable, leaded solder.
     
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