PS4 is just a shitty PC, why not join us, the PC gaming master race?

Sorry but this is more of a user problem and not a problem with the OS. Maybe not the BSOD thing but definately the virus problem.

 

indeed, generally anything opengl based should run fine on linux systems,

which is why we now see companies like valve taking the platform more seriously, companies like id and epic in the past also did, although there were issues with drivers back then from ati and nvidia which didnt help matters.

It's a great platform, and there's no reason why you can't dual or multiboot a number of OSs

i have a drive specifically for OS installs then a larger drive for data, i currently have 3 different linux distros and windows 7 installed, so thats 4 OS on 1 drive. with a menu at startup to select which one i like to boot into it's pretty easy to do.

 

Well, for the most part it's true, but not always. Most user applications in unix systems don't require root access for anything except system-wide installation, in windows many people usually run everything as administrator because running many things, especially games is often a real PITA without admin rights. Also windows got some design flaws that allow remote side to upload and execute code on your machine and such vulnerabilities are extremely rare in *nix world and usually don't last long enough to be exploited on a global scale.

 

Unsure If I posted my bitch Spiel here yet. I will remain, and always be a retro gamer. snes-ps2 era for life! Whenever me or my friends buy a new system, it's really just to watch netflix on or to emulate older systems. Back in the old days, when there was a new console, there was usually very huge technological leaps in the graphics/ everything else. The leap from the SNES to the n64 for example. I was and still am mindblown.

These years, I've discovered the best gaming console: going outside. But yea, lol I have all of what I need on my laptop , emulation.

 

The Blue Screen of Death error isn't because of the OS. Blue Screen of Death is caused by a ton of different factors including poorly written drivers, incompatible DLL files, overheating, viruses, etc. If you are getting the Blue Screen of Death, upgrade your hardware or perhaps run a virus scan and you'll be free of that.

That's because Linux isn't as user friendly as OSX and Windows are. There are different distros, yes but some are not as user friendly as others. If you want to play modern games though, all you need is Wine or the several other programs readily available to play those games.

If you want to use OSX, all you need to do is buy an older but compatible machine or you could go the route of Hackintosh. I've used Hackintosh before and I still do to this day. If I want to play modern games, all I need to do is get Wine and get the necessary files together so that the game can run on a Mac environment.

There are several ways around different OS when it comes to gaming, it just needs to fit into your personal preference.

 

There's something seriously wrong if you're getting BSODs on current Windows versions, haven't seen one in years.

 

I've found OSX less user friendly than most linux distros i've tried (and that's alot) cant stand mac os i've always hated it lol.

 

Seriously. I haven't had BSOD Since 2000 and that was because of a driver issue. As Long as everything is installed correctly and you scan your PC weekly, there's no reason for BSOD. Haven't had a virus in years as well and I've went from XP to 7 and still nothing

 

Funny thing. My current setup gives me a BSOD everytime I use the built in USB SD card reader that is factory installed. Weird. Nothing a $2 Chinese reader couldn't fix.

 

In what way was it less user friendly?

I know I felt that way when I first started using OSX, everything just felt intimidating because of having to re-learn all of the key binds that I was so used to in Windows 7. I honestly feel like both OS have their pros and cons. Granted, newer Macintosh builds are slowly being equipped with higher end hardware; however, I have never really found Macintosh computers aside from Hackintosh builds being equip for gaming as much as they are for media editing which outshines the Windows OS when it comes to that task. Windows on the other hand is more accustom for gaming. I love both OS as equals but it all really comes down to preference.

 

it's just always felt wrong for me, "soft" in a way and "ridgid" in another, i'm not a windows fan by any means, but i'd use it over osx if given the choice, as for mac hardware yeah from a gaming point of view it's not impressed me. if i did ever get a mac in the future i could only see it being a laptop and osx would be the first thing to come off it. replaced with a nice linux distro. but that said i'm highly unlikely to bother even looking at an apple product. again however i did love my 160GB ipod classic right up until i lost it(and no i never used itunes for it, hate itunes too).

regardless i feel windows and osx are being dumbbed down far too much to appeal to the general "dumb" masses (and hipsters for osx) macs are overpriced fashion accessories. although that's just my opinion.

i also feel linux has the most room to grow, and along more paths not restricted to "fashionable" retail trends.

anyway back to le console wars. lets get back to beating eachother with our severed limbs over which console sucks less my prediction is PS4 will suck less.

 

Please, OS X hasn't been hipster in a decade (since the Snow iBooks came out). It was also a power user's dream out of the box until fairly recently. Even now, after you set a few (needlessly obfuscated) options, you have an amazing gui for a BSD based distro. It just sucks, because as time goes forward (espceially starting from Snow Leopard in '09), OS X is becoming less like NeXTSTEP more and more like iOS... The high points for OS X were really '04-'09. Man, I really wish NeXT would have survived... sorry, now I'm rambling (especially because this has nothing to do with gaming).

Anyway, have you been to Brooklyn recently? The real hipsters are using Kins & Zunes. Apple is, like, so mainstream, dude. Although I'm sure if one could find a Newton, they'd be all over that...

 

I Mean legally, Hackitoshing and Wine-thing your pc seems illegal, wine doesn't work properly in 64bit because it need 32 bit OpenGL drivers. I Have problem about wine is crashing while try to load any application

 

Wine is perfectly legal.

 

wine also works perfectly fine in 64bit, if there were any legal issues M$ would have jumped all over that.

@Blotter12.
i disagree completely regarding the OSX and it's gui, but just my opinion, anyways no i've not been to brooklyn every, sadly hipsters are everywhere a plague on mankind.

 

In what way exactly? 10.9 is the greatest build of OS X I've ever used.

 

I definitely agree. The last time I even got a BSOD was when I was testing early versions of Windows 8 on an old laptop which had video driver issues.

 

Restrictive defaults in Gatekeeper & Finder keep users from being able to understand how their computer works & deters exploration & learning. Imagine if only dealerships and/or mechanics had the ability to open the hood of your car. It's not there yet, but it's going in that direction. Like I said, these settings can be undone, but it can be a pain, especially the Finder settings.

N.B.: I don't have Mavericks yet, so I don't know what the Finder situation is on that version of the OS.

 

Gatekeeper isn't really an issue anymore as the only way to export an application for Mac via Xcode these days is with a signing certificate (other development tools, unity etc also have access to those signing methods) therefore only legacy apps have issues with it which in time will phase out. Nobody can ever expect any company to extend resources to older and obsolete applications, it's just not practical. Just like your car analogy, my local Ford Dealership doesn't hold many parts anymore for my '97 escort and I don't blame them.

Granted that ties us developers to the Apple Developer program for the duration of an apps life cycle but it's low cost and offers an ideal way to make sure compatibility issues are none existent for future OS builds. This actually guarantees a greater experience for the masses in the long term. I also cannot fault the Apple Developer program either, so many good resources and helpful tools in there, I don't mind that they charge an upkeep fee.

As for the restricted Finder experience, the Library is the only thing I can think of which is restricted since 10.7. To be honest I think the last thing the average joe needs is access to the library folder, and anyone who needs to use it or wants to have a look doesn't have to go through much to get there.

The one thing to always remember when discussing such topics is that we are not the average consumer or the target audience and I think if you take a step back and try to imagine what using OS X is like for a noob it's actually a very well thought out system and the increasing ties to the Apple/iOS ecosystem is a comfort for people.

10.9 brings back a lot of the power features which are useful for professionals and the tech that has been implemented to improve resource management and battery life is second to none.

 

My point is that with these restrictive defaults, you'll keep people newbs forever. If you don't let them discover things on their own, or let them understand the control/tweaks they can make to their computer, they'll never become computer literate. This is how I started programming (in BASIC). I didn't have to sign up to any developer program. On that note, what happens when you make one app Apple doesn't like and they pull that from their store, along with your accreditation? How do you sell software to Apple users then? I'm for freedom. e.g. I bought this computer, I should be able to install what I want on it (or I bought this Xbox One, I should be able to play single player games without checking in over the Internet every 24 hours). Again, I know you can change the defaults, but the fact that the defaults are the way they are is a step towards iOS.

I'm not saying this isn't well thought out, or that it's without benefit. As it stands today, it's just on the wrong side of my freedom vs convenience spectrum, as it is a step towards moving Apple personal computers from a workstation for creating to a device for consuming. It's a policy that widens the knowledge divide between the computer literate and those who get caught in computer-related scams.