PS4 is just a shitty PC, why not join us, the PC gaming master race?

It's like the MSX all over again.

 

You can change the load outs yknow, I used an MP5 at both ends of the spectrum, even after I levelled. Unless of course it was a sniping map.

 

I know the PS4 is basically a toned down PC and I couldn't care. It plays games, and gameplay matters more than graphics IMO. The graphics are good from what we've seen. While not a massive leap from the PS3, it's still a big leap.

I hate PC elitist mentality. I'd rather drop $500 on a PS4 and know I won't have to upgrade it down the road to play a new game. Now I do already have a gaming PC and I play consoles more. I don't care if the graphics aren't as good. Consoles are about ease of use.

One thing I hate is having to install the damn game on the PC. It's not installing the game that bothers me, it's having it take up room on the HDD. That may be trivial but I have only a 250GB HDD.

 

I assume this is a typo.

 

Or a massive understatement!

 

well on the price point, how many people had to buy more than 1 PS3 or XBOX360 due to the poor quality hardware eg RROD and YLOD, bluray drives dying etc etc. drives the cost right up to a decent spec pc.

i built my pc a few years ago and have not upgraded since it was built, and it still plays pretty much everything to date, you claim to already have a gaming pc but a 250gb hdd these days is not really gaming pc spec or even casual media pc spec. and HDDs are pretty cheap now for 1GB drives, but i hear what you're saying, back in the day i was gaming with a 10gb hdd and then a 60gb hdd lol

but its all personal preference, there is a difference between being elitist and being right though, i just believe everything is better experience with a PC, over current gen consoles.

Display Options
Control Options
Communication Options
Content Options
Multi Tasking Options

i could go on but wont, bottom line is, if you're a Gamer, just get your Game on what ever you Game on

everything can co-exist, my 2nd pc monitor sits on top of my xbox360(120gb elite) and plays on the 1st pc monitor beside it. the gaming pc sits below, an unholy union of awesomeness
although i don't have a PS3 yet.

 

The 360 was far from a "shitty" PC when it came out. Consider that multi-core systems were still far from common in 2005.

 

But MP3 players with PortalPlayer chips had 2 ARM7 cores earlier.

 

How much would it cost for a high end PC anyways?

 

Depends on what do you mean by "high end PC" it can be everything from average gaming desktop with one of the top CPUs and video cards, with 16-32Gb of RAM and 250Gb-10Tb of disk space, to some workstation beast, like the one i got for about for about 2k euro as "not working" for spare parts but was able to repair - dual motherboard workstation with 8x quad core CPU and 10 RAM slots on each board and more than 10x4Tb of disk space. That will go up to 100k range. But of course second one isn't a gaming desktop, you won't need anything like this for games because there's no game that can use more than 4-6 cores, so no need for so many CPUs. And of course that kind of machine will work at full power only with linux, so for gaming machine it will be limited with native games and wine compatibility.
Only 10x4Tb part is ok for gaming desktop, but it won't cost that much, and fits perfectly in 2.5k range.

 

A lot of PC gamers are forgetting one BIG point. Console hardware does become old so the gamer programmers find new ways of pushing the older hardware. This gives the WOW factor that PC gaming has never had. This is what draws me towards consoles more that PC gaming. I mean, I'm playing Far Cry 3 on my 360 and it looks fantastic. I couldn't care less if the PC version has a little better lighting or some other graphical effect that doesn't matter. Also, with a console there's no messing about with drivers and so on.

The bottom line is, pay 500 on a new console that will still impress 5 years or more down the road (360 is still impressing with stuff like Crysis 3 7 years on!) or a load more on a PC which you know you'll have to upgrade within 5 years. It has always been that way and still will be from what can see. PCs are great and can out perform consoles these days but it's all anal if the truth be told and sometimes the details are that small that you really have to look for them. Current gen running in true 1080p with solid 60fps would sure do me.

 

It always surprises me that PC fanboys so constantly spout the PC's (much) higher system specs over consoles, as 'proof' that PC gaming is so much better than console gaming, when surely the mod scene is the biggest advantage of PC gaming over console gaming? Most of the best PC games have free addons and modifications made by fans, and sometimes these are fantastic, and can really extend the life of the games, and sometimes even improve them. You don't get that on consoles (well, you do with Unreal 3 on the PS3, and on a modded XBox (modded as in with a mod chip or if the console is soft modded - the word 'mod' there has a different meaning from the one in connection with game mods) you can use mods for GTA3/GTA: Vice City/GTA San Andreas/Elderscrolls 3: Morrowind, and a small number of other games. In all cases the mods must be made on the PC, and only some mods will work on the console version of the game). Price is another factor in PC gaming's favour; alright, so the hardware outlay is higher, a gaming capable PC costs more than a console, but the commercial games on the PC are usually cheaper than on a console, plus the PC has lots of freeware or shareware games. But these points are rarely mentioned by PC fanboys in their anti-console rants, instead it's the system specs that are mostly touted, even though the PC does nothing that the 360 or PS3 can't do, the PC just does it prettier, and in a few games, supports more players.

If PC games used the extra power for better AI, for a more immersive gameworld, a more destructable environment, etc, then the hardware would be a factor effecting gameplay, but now, even with the 360 and PS3 so far behind (a long way behind) technologically speaking, games on the PC are held back by the software (specifically by the ambitions and aims of the game developers) so that hardware potential isn't even close to being realised.

BTW, I'm not accusing anyone in this thread of being a fanboy - if you want to see rampant, thoughtless fanboyism go to Gamefaqs, especially the PC board. Though the worst fanboyism I've seen was on a Nintendo site, it was that that made me stop going there (despite the N64 being my favourite console). I've heard that overall Apple Mac fanboys are the worst, but I've never encountered that personally as I don't go on Mac specific boards, and the Mac owners who post on the boards I frequent seem content to live and let live.

 

PC specs are always fragmented what makes development never use real cutting edge of the power available.

 

Essentially this whole thread is preferences. I prefer gaming on a PC just because of the ease of use, and it doesn't just serve one purpose. Sure, I dropped much more on it than a console but I'm using it for many. many more uses. School work, documents, music, editing, everything. I also prefer 2 screens, so that I can control background applications while in a full screen game. As it is now, you can't do that with a console, or if you do you have to interrupt the game. I personally see no advantage to owning a console other than the services and games only available on those consoles. -Ease of use? Plug in a USB controller -large screen tv? Not that hard either. Of course you do need to update the graphics card and the specs should you want to keep u with modern game at max settings. It's an inevitable fact and probably one of the only downsides to gaming on a PC.

 

Really ASSEMbler? I wouldn't expect this coming from someone with extraordinaire experience with video game systems.

 

If you took a high end PC, stuck it in a little black box and sold it for $1000 to compete with Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo, would it even sell? It would probably be a flop just like every other high end high price multi media slash computing games console we've seen.

 

Yes, I meant PS4. The PS4, while aged by PC standards, looks fantastic to me.

 

The Gamecube shares nothing with a PC. It's a Power PC by IBM with a custom graphics chip by ArtX.

The xbox isn't really a PC, but then neither is the PS4.

 

Right, same with the Wii, 360, and PS3 - well, the PS3 is CELL, which contains a PowerPC component. Not x86. They do all use PC-based graphics, though.

 

"Everybody" has a PS3/360(/Wii). We must remember that those of us with a gaming-capable PCs are a tiny minority.