Questionable behaviour of AG member

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  1. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    A certain AG member keeps drawing attention to his immature, bizarre, strange & frankly odd behaviour here & elsewhere on the Internet. His antics have spun nothing but frustrating threads which invariably end up with them being locked and other members either attempting to convince this so-called youth leader / pastor into acting with a level of maturity his position should afford or become so frustrated that they too run the risk of being banned.

    Month after month this site has been subjected to the rants and odd postings relating to his alleged interests which are often far removed from the gaming community.

    Whether this member is attention seeking, has his own issues that require professional help or is really up to the things he posts in neither here nor there.

    I think it's about time this member were either curbed by the owner / site mods and offered a 3 strikes and you are out, or frankly an out-right ban (depending on whether in fact he has broken any rules or not).

    I for one am sick to death of hearing his banal outpourings & relentless waffle!

    The last thing I want is to see finger pointing, I've even stuck up for the member in the past and suggested a second chance after previous postings that frustrated the hell out of the majority of reasonable posters, but the latest post relating to screwing up Wiki pages is beyond a joke!

    Assembler has Wiki pages, they can and obviously do take a great deal of time and effort to piece together. I can't imagine any of us considering messing around with those or other Wiki material that could be of use to say someone suffering from autism for example!

    Can someone from the mod side of the site have a word with the member on the behalf of others trying to use the site for its intended purpose?

    Many thanks in advance!
     
  2. karsten

    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    being discussed already.
     
  3. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    Excellent, many thanks - I'm not the only member to have spoken to the mod team I am certain of it!

    <Wow, it's a shiny new mod fresh out it's wrapper too... ;-)>
     
  4. diddydonn

    diddydonn Familiar Face

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    I for one completely agree with what Parris said, and i have made my feelings known with regards to this individual before

    If someone wants to post their mindless drivel online thats their choice, but to be bluntly honest, and im sure others will agree, some of the comments this person have made are crude, immature, and to a certain extent down right stupid

    Its one thing to post such things on a myspace page / blog / personal site etc, but on a gaming / dev forum is another matter

    Im not saying that posting about other topics on here is a bad thing, but there is a point where common sense should kick in, sadly this individual seems not to have any what-so-ever

    Im not perfect, far from it, and im sure some of my comments and my obscure sense of humor may have inadvertently offended people on here, but at least i try to maintain some sort of tact and sensibility with what i post
     
  5. karsten

    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    his words. i know nothing of him or his problems, and since is leaving i think it's high time to let this sleep, right?

    also so far no decision from the "above" have been taken about him neither good or "bad". if he comes to his senses and be more respectful he might even make a comeback if he chooses so.
     
  6. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    Didds, most of us have posted something in the past that we have immediately discovered offended others and we've either amended or argued the point we were making in a mature manner, or in some instances actually apologised or deleted the offensive comments.

    What is lacking is (as you say) any real thought process behind what is being put forward. Off Topic is an area you can post almost anything on, but it surely doesn't give you the right to deliberately set out to either cause offense or demonstrate your lack of maturity in a plethora of banal rants?

    It really must be beyond a joke when almost every thread you post gets locked or gets you flamegrilled.

    Let's hope the mods have a solution or atleast a means of attempting to make this particular member tone down and think pre-port. ;-)
     
  7. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    Fair point, but since none of us got the opportunity to actually 'know' the guy (as he tended to just irritate) then I don't think the issue is with the AG community so much as the individual.

    One point Karsten is that nobody has spent their time witch hunting the member and if he has chosen to leave then that's his decision.

    Mute point if he is now leaving. The End!
     
  8. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    I don't often post in such threads, because I m quite tolerant of other people's quirks and behaviours - they all have some reasons deep within them for doing what they do, even the so called worst of them.

    It is unfortunate that people get divided to such a degree that request a removal - but it's understandable.

    Personally, I just ignore what I don't agree with and avoid conflict - life is a hard enough lesson for anyone and they ll eventually and hopefully learn.

    In a grey defence of that member, I believe that he has found attachment to this forum, thanks to the mature nature of our members, and has felt comfort to discuss even things that one doesn't usually, even with close friends.


    It is to our credit that we inspire such friendly feelings and it comes to show that we all "know" each other and appreciate our faults.

    Just like a father who forgives a child, I think patience is the key in molding a right behaviour - an outright attack is surely not.


    Whilst I appreciate the frustration and I entirely understand the weight of the member's mistakes against the ideas of other members, I think we're better than this.

    After all, this is just the internet, you don't have to deal with those you don't agree, unlike real life =)

    PS: I fully appreciate the frustration of the members that chose to post their thoughts, a brave initiative, instead of sitting on the fence.

    My position is slightly different however, as I believe in education instead of outcasting. That said, if it is something that most members wish for I will not deny the democratic process the respect it is due.
     
  9. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    I think it has to be understood that previously I actually stuck up for this particular member and it is mildly patronising to suggest that we as genuine members of an online community must somehow tolerate any postings, irrespective of how bizarre like parents.

    The member is question appeared to take great pleasure in posting rambling, strange outpourings that displayed a single lack of thought. It's not like this member issued a single post and then apologised. It has been a torrent of postings over months.

    Can I also point out that nobody actually asked this particular member to leave, even me who decided enough was enough pointed out that in fact the mods should take initiative, that there should be no finger pointing, I have yet to mention the members name and I also mentioned that they should have a word with him, give him some option such as 3 strikes and you're out!

    This has not been a witch hunt! It has been, I believe conducted with a certain amount of understanding of this member's apparent issues and irrespective of whether he found a home here or not, when someone continually forgets to flush the toilet, leaves the toothpaste cap off the tube, forgets to buy milk they've used that belonged to someone else then you have a group meeting and say 'Hey, dude we need this sorted' because other people 'live' here too!

    You can choose to ignore, I've even suggested this as a solution, but there clearly comes a time when a members behaviour needs to be pointed out and checked.

    It is quite possible that this member remains within AG, which is fine by me, but this particular member should consider the content and the reaction his postings might produce because many of them were just space oddities of the highest order!

    Barc0de, we know one another well enough, so I ever just randomly pick on members or say anything out of spite? Nah, this has been a long time coming and having been spoken to by other members here and elsewhere I decided to say what wasn't being said. There was NO witch hunt or malice in this at all.
     
  10. madhatter256

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    The Internet is not a substitute for parenting.
     
  11. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    Of course, I know you sir! It must have been quite a threshold breaker, as I know how understanding you are for people's issues.

    I was not pointing fingers or blaming anyone, and I m sorry if it came accross as such.

    I was just posting my personal view, not making a suggestions to be followed by others =)
     
  12. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    it should be observed that the 3 strikes that you have mentioned are very similar in nature to the "education vs outcasting" concept.

    As such, we are sharing more similarities than differences in our opinion =)
     
  13. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    Not wishing to sound like an advert for AG, because as mentioned before 'it's just the Internet', but there are few online communities such as AG where members are mature enough, understanding enough or involved enough in the actual on-going direction and content of the site that they'll take such a stance in policing them.

    For instance ousting spammers, pointing out violations of rules, pulling up members, correcting grammer :)rolleyes: ) or taking an active role in ensuring that despite them not being a member of staff or even directly involved in the site itself (in it's day to day running) that we all take a role in debating such situations!

    I think it says a great deal about this site that the owner, mods & posters will discuss such things openly. I also appreciate that I might not be posting the majority view, which is why I suggested the mods resolve the issue as they clearly have to follow the guidelines for such instances and I am not demanding a ban or suggesting they follow my advice, merely that as a member (who has spoken to other members about this) that someone has to say something!

    I have a tendancy to just say 'Damn it, I'll do it!'

    However, regarding why I initially posted, you are correct! My level of tolerance hit it's threshold. If I were to be honest, the internal threshold has risen & dipped over the last few months and I have bitten my tongue on many occassions, even temporarily placing the member on my 'ignore' list!

    Often I did think 'my God, why are you typing these things, what are you telling us this for, think before you type as you will be pulled to pieces for this....' and at times I felt embarrassed for this guy. However he seemed determined to display his inner thoughts of unedited angst ridden material.

    I can handle most 'Off Topic' postings, but not when they are a record of whom/what you have abused or pissed off!
     
  14. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    I'm a firm believer in on of two things when people make boneheads of themselves in threads.
    -Don't read said thread
    -Come up w/ witty comeback

    Seriously, if we wanted to point out faults of posters here, we could do it all year long. Just ignore and move on.
     
  15. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    Fair point GP, with that I think we have pretty much exhausted this one as Karsten has already pointed out the particular member in question has been spoken to and / or made his own mind up on leaving.
     
  16. Mr. Casual

    Mr. Casual Champion of the Forum

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    Looks like I'm late to the party!

    Personally I think GodofHardcore was a troll.

    Saying EDF is "Fucked up Japan" rather than simply "Japanese" is pretty retarded. Or should I say, dumb? Well, whatever the case, I'm glad he's gone.

    He's a 12 year old in a 26 year old's body, and I HAPPEN to know somebody similar, and its pretty sad.
     
  17. graciano1337

    graciano1337 Milk Bar

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    A troll with over 1,000 posts! That's what's crazy. He posted a lot.
     
  18. ServiceGames

    ServiceGames Heretic Extraordinaire

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    I think his "talking to" and his decision to leave all within the space of a few hours may very well be a testament to his base immaturity and relative immaturity.
    He either realizes that this is not the place for him and has just been hanging around for the hell of it. Or his decission was made in haste and will soon be recanted. I've stopped reading basically all of his postings quite some time ago as I see no relevance held within them.

    I don't care wether he stays or leaves. However, I think it is good that he realizes there are those of us who do not appreciate his post style and content.
     
  19. madhatter256

    madhatter256 Illustrious Member

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  20. Micjohvan

    Micjohvan Familiar Face

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    We have become to large for our own good >_>

    We must create a.......drumroll..........

    POLICEFORCE! or as I call it a.... TROLL FORCE!

    I nominate Parris Chief as I have no idea about what hes talking about and I have never seen said threads, but form the reactions I must conclude that I, am in fact, blind. -_-

    Note: Not trying to say that I disagree but I cant recall seeing any threads and I dont even know how this god of hardcore is? lol!
     
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