Rumor: PartnerNet Bricking Kits?

Discussion in 'Xbox 360 Development' started by Alec, Apr 26, 2010.

  1. bearkilla

    bearkilla Robust Member

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    i don't undertand, please don't say you think this is normal rrod

    theres 5 boxes so far with same symtoms on same day with same error code
     
  2. Patriot

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    My kit also got taken down.
     
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  3. gabe_k

    gabe_k Rising Member

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    It's not BS. Bearkilla, Patriot, soniciso, and I have all had our kits bircked. Just because your friends haven't been hit yet doesn't mean they won't be.
     
  4. jester

    jester Rapidly Rising Member

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    Based on your posts @ 7S, I know you who you are talking about. That had nothing to do with ParterNet, that theory holds no water.
     
  5. bearkilla

    bearkilla Robust Member

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    yeah i think they have been planning this for a while, maybe since the first few leaks - afterburner etc.
     
  6. alecjahn

    alecjahn Site Soldier

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    I can feel the burn coming.

    The point of this thread has been to try and figure out what the hell is going on. Pointing fingers can certainly be a side effect of observations, but people: be adults, help the community before you help yourself. Beefing up or defending your silly screen name is silly. I don't want to read a thread about how so-and-so got canned or how this forum got closed yet again because we couldn't be civil.
     
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  7. SONIC3D

    SONIC3D Spirited Member

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    It's not confirmed.They're only guessing about it.They are still trying the way of removing R6T3.I doubt it would be work since Sunday and soniciso proved it's non-working.I will tell them tomorrow morning.

    I have warned in two posts in this board section last Saturday about the unusual PN connection problem and the remote RRoD triggerred on Saturday.But the topic and question of the first posts in these two threads are a bit sensitive.They are all deleted my moderator later.I really hope you have read them on Saturday,Sunday Monday or Tuesday.But remote brick still happened to you.I'm sorry for this result.Maybe I should post an individual thread to warn.

    By now,my stats of the Chinese users affected in this event led me to this conclusion:Those who plays retail game on PN with other users whose IP address is clearly not in the same range as his IP would be suspected to be using devkit for non-production purpose.And these reports would be accumulated until M$ decided to react on it like this time.Recover nand seems not working now.No one in China who sufferred in this action is recovered via reflash nand with the backup.And all of them get secondary code 0022 for RRoD.

    To me.I can access one legal kit in company and two private kits from blackmarket.I almost never play games online with other players.Non of these kit(9328 and 9328.9) is RRoD now and works online without any problem(even in the last Friday that several suspected user can not log on to PN,I can log on successfully).In most of the time,these kit is used for developing application,playing Xbox1 games and playing resigned live arcade games.And I have asked two of my workmate in Japan.All legal kit in company is not remote bricked.But due to the project requirement.They have higher system version than me.I can not test more about different recovery system version because I have no formal project in hand.I have no proper reason to acquire newer recovery from the administrator of my company.

    P.S.Yesterday.I tryed to copy a gamers profile from a friend whose kit is remote bricked these day.And log on with this profile on my kit.It works OK.So M$ seems recording some info unique to Machine not the gamer's profile.


    I won't responsible for all I have said above.I just pass the info here.Hope it will be useful to you all.
    :cur_sonic:
     
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  8. bearkilla

    bearkilla Robust Member

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    i never played retail games, nevermind online against other pnet users.

    i cannot speak for any previous owners however.
     
  9. lllsondowlll

    lllsondowlll Fiery Member

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    I did come to the conclusion that this was all bullshit aswell till Kev and I took a little trip together to the chinese board confirming there is kits being bricked by the many.
     
  10. SONIC3D

    SONIC3D Spirited Member

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    Currently there are more than 400 xdk publicly sold in far east.(Including CN,HK,TW,SG,JP....).And there are more stored in warehouse or private seller's hand.So the voice come from far east about XDK is valuable nowaday.But on the other hand,actions may be mainly targeted on these private buyer,too.

    Most of the models(99%) sold in far east is Xneon(70%) and Zypher(30%).But personally I don't think the purpose of this remote bricking is to wash-up those old model,missing model or nullified model.

    :gravedigging:
     
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  11. l_oliveira

    l_oliveira Officer at Arms

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    With hacked retail units now being able to run encrypted/compressed devkit XEX files, I can clearly see that such XEXs could end in TPB and other piracy hubs hence why Microsoft is tightening the security on the developers network. Also some here mentioned the possibility of people messing with files related to an major Microsoft IP being another sensible reason for such violent reaction.

    I think that instead of trying to figure out why kits are being bricked, the people with them should really instead stop using them on the network.

    From now on it will be warfare so any civilian running around places they're not supposed to be at will become an target.
     
  12. wan5

    wan5 <B>Site Supporter 2014</B>

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    I see, my appologise, i do not know the origins of the beta to be perfectly honest, it just looked like a dev build as opposed to somthign that would be on a retail box.

    The only reason i suggested this was simply as arcade screenshots, and marketplace screens have been being leaked for a really long time. Not much in the way of full fledged retail games, especially flagship titles.

    So yeah, i stand corrected. :)
     
  13. Tyler

    Tyler Enthusiastic Member

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    I respectfully disagree.

    I think we should find out exactly how they do it, and how to stop it from happing to us.
     
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  14. Haxalot88

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    Agreed. I would have a difference stance on this if it was simply banning the consoles from PNet (somehow), but completely bricking the consoles is going a bit too far.

    My only concern is you cannot really be too sure now... Like what if Microsoft set this up in waves? For example, they could brick all the known consoles that connected in a given period of time, then just STOP. Nobody knows what solution exactly worked, so then they can just randomly do another wave later on.
     
  15. lllsondowlll

    lllsondowlll Fiery Member

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    Oh boy 7S people showing up, can't voice how much I miss them >_<

    On another note I think we should only post from now on if any news comes in or any useful information with solid proof surfaces. Right now best thing to do is wait it out and dig a little.
     
  16. Haxalot88

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    FYI, I haven't been active in the 7S community for many, many months... Or hacking, Or modding, or really just about anything in that area. I just happened to notice this topic and it sparked some interest.
     
  17. fusion

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    +1

    Someone with a legit kit please use a packet sniffer to see what is being sent across the wire. If you need help doing this feel free to PM me. This would be a great first step.
     
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  18. Haxalot88

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    Unless it's a kit that's going to be bricked, I don't think there's going to be any actual difference, seeing as how this is something implemented server-side, not client-side. Unless this was your precise intention?
     
  19. fusion

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    There is probably some check that gets sent during the sign-in process. Seeing the data could lead us to , exactly how they are doing it, which would also be the first step on finding out what needs to be done to fix the problem and prevent it. I am not sure about the mods on 7S, but the mods here are a lot more strict and professional. If you don't have anything positive to contribute to a post, dont.
     
  20. gabe_k

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    The bricks aren't instant, so I doubt it's any sort of check. MS is probably just looking at abnormal activity themselves.
     
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