Sega Rally Revo

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  1. dazzo0007

    dazzo0007 Rapidly Rising Member

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    No, you're not. I have a friend who's been urging me to get a hold of Sonic Heroes and give it a go. He's not that big of a Sega fan, more of a Nintendo fan, but I am. He seemed to enjoy it. In his estimation the game is of pretty good quality and its fun, which is all that really matters anyway.

    And speaking of Sega Rally Revo, I'm really looking forward to the release of it. I still, on occasion, play Sega Rally 2 on DC and with the code for a locked 60 fps, makes the game play smooth as butter.

    About the whole lack of quality Sega titles issue. While I agree that there has been a lull of spectactular Sega games, there still have been some. But a lot have just been sequels or rehashes, still good games nonetheless.

    For instance, I love Virtua Tennis on the PSP. Its really a great game in my opinion. I think that was a high quality release. Before that I enjoyed playing Super Monkey Ball on the GBA as well as Feel the Magic on DS. I would like to get my hands on a copy of Monkey Ball for DS, though.

    Sega did release Full Auto for the 360. I'm not sure how its been faring as far as sales figures go, but I did enjoy the demo nonetheless.

    I still haven't opened my copy of Panzer Dragoon Orta for the XBox. I've heard that game is really well done.

    And of course, lets not forget Outrun 2 and Outrun 2006: C2C. I really enjoyed playing Outrun 2 on the box and still do occassionally.

    Yakuza looks amazing to me. Its too bad my friend has my PS2 because I'm letting him borrow it since his broke. It almost looks like a gangster or drug-ridden version of Shenmue with a more cuthroat edge to it. Not that I really care too much about reviews but I thought they were fairly favorable in Japan.

    ...Oh and gosh how could I forget about Sonic Rush. I thought that was one of the most well done 2D Sonic titles since Sonic CD. I mean, it is no Sonic CD, but what is? It comes close though.

    So, in my opinion, Sega does still make quality titles, but they do seem fewer and farther between. I guess, the new Sega, under the Sammy umbrella prefer the quality over quantity approach. And even though the list of titles I enjoyed is fairly large, riddled among those are quite a few average or just above average releases that don't really help Sega's image as a great developer/publisher:

    Spy Fiction, Astro Boy, Virtua Quest, Tenchu, Shining Tears, Iron Phoenix, Shining Force Neo, or Spartan: Total Warrior. Granted, I haven't played most of the games listed directly above, but I'm judging mainly from the media and public's acceptance of these titles. I would like to try these soon, though...once I find a job...
     
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  3. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    Regarding sonic heroes, that game has many little bugs in the physics department. especially compared to SA2
     
  4. Anthaemia.

    Anthaemia. The Original VF3 Fangirl™

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    Who else is still left at Sega to produce a new Sega Rally? The genius behind the original game - Tetsuya Mizuguchi - has long since moved on, while I'm not sure of Kenji Sasaki's involvement with the company these days. However, he's got a brilliant track record (pun not intended) including Ridge Racer, Sega Touring Car and Sega Rally 2. Unfortunately, not everybody shares my love of SR2 and would rather see a new update closer to the first game. While this may yet happen, I'll just be happy we're getting another Sega Rally of any kind. Personally, it would be great if the 2006 edition was released outside of Japan complete with that bonus disc as well... unless it's been kept for another retro compilation, of course!
     
  5. SuperGrafx

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    Who knows.
    I just don't want it to turn out the way SR2 did.
    The DC version controlled nothing like the Saturn version and despite having all those career modes and whatnot it just wasn't very fun. The Colin McRae series has improved steadily over the years, so the developers of the new SR really have their work cut out.
     
  6. Anthaemia.

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    As somebody who has grown up (and then grown old!) with Sega over the years, I don't really think the company is trying to keep up with its once rivals anymore. In fact, if a new Sega Rally plays identically to either of the last two proper titles in this series it will probably satisfy more "hardcore" fans as opposed to recent mainstream-type gamers. Of course, we'd all be happier if this latest sequel was closer to the original, but at least Sega looks as if it's going for the safe option instead of trying to revolutionise the Rally series. If you want a technical racer, why not just stick with the latest Colin McRae and leave Sega Rally to remain faithful to its arcade roots? On the other hand, some changes will be necessary - having the same classic gameplay with next generation visuals sounds like a definite winner to me, especially considering the success of OutRun 2!
     
  7. SuperGrafx

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    That's the thing though. While Colin McRae is more technical than the arcadey SR games, its control seemed more in tune with SR1 than the weird changes Sega implemented in SR2. That's the main thing that got me hooked on SR in the first place, the impeccable control.

    I too grew up with Sega over the years. That's partly why I want to see the new SR game remain faithful to its arcade heritage. And as you say, if Outrun 2 is any indication, perhaps they'll pull this off well.
     
  8. Barc0de

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    I dont see why everyone hates SG2. Having played both more than I should, I can safely say that out of the two SG2 offered me more fun with all its sharp twists and turns , and gear shifting.

    Does the manual driving mode scare our American friends here who are used to automatic cars by any chance? Cuz that's just hilarious ;) I ve kicked every automatic-gear driver's ass in those games ;)
     
  9. Anthaemia.

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    Why so much hatred for Sega Rally 2? Instead of comparing it to the first game, try and think of it as more a spiritual follow-up to producer Kenji Sasaki's previous effort, Ridge Racer - that way you will appreciate it a lot more, as this view seems to work for me. Of course we'd all like a new game more like the first SR, but unless Sega can poach back Tetsuya Mizuguchi and the original development team (which has since broken up and gone many separate ways) then we'll just have to stick with the Model 2, Saturn, PC and now PS2 versions of what is a timeless classic.

    Is there much of a difference in the handling between Sega Rally 2 in the arcade when compared to the later Dreamcast edition, as I feel much of the criticism pointed at this game might have something to do with its rushed console port, which is probably what most of you immediately think of. I haven't played the arcade machine in years, but I'd love to know just why so many people despise Sega Rally 2 as I seemed to enjoy it. In my opinion, the first Rally was Sega's last great racer (apart from perhaps S.C.U.D. Race) - need I mention any version of Touring Car or even try comparing Battle On The Edge to the original Daytona USA?
     
  10. SuperGrafx

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    IMO, the powerslides and physics were changed too much from the previous game. The cars just felt "disconnected" from the road and slid way too much when compared to the godly SR1. I did everything I could as far as tuning was concerned to replicate the control from the first game, but I could never come close.

    Some will argue that I'm just nitpicking or whatever, but my brother had the same complaints so I know it's not just me. It was a good game on its own, but when compared directly to its predecessor it just wasn't the same...kind of like how Daytona 2 didn't exactly live up to the original version.
     
  11. SuperGrafx

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    I wouldn't call it hatred necessarily, just disappointment I guess. As I said, I logged many hours with the Saturn version and sort of expected more of the same from the DC edition. Sure, looking at it from the standpoint of being a spiritual successor is all well and good, but ultimately it just didn't click with me.

    The only arcade version of SR I ever had the opportunity to play was SR1, and that was remarkably similar to the Saturn version in terms of handling. As for why I despise the changes made to the physics system, see my previous post.
     
  12. Anthaemia.

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    This new sequel in the Sega Rally family is the first product from Sega's recently-founded UK driving studio, which includes Sumo Digital. Although they weren't responsible for the arcade version, I sure didn't hear anybody complaining with Sumo's console treatments of this game so I'm optimistic the next generation Sega Rally will be a return to form. As I said before, though, if it's not then we always have the original - how many other racing titles get as much praise a nearly decade on from their release, apart from Daytona USA and maybe the first Ridge Racer or Gran Turismo? Every other series has progressed since its beginnings, while these all seem to have become worse with every update (although this is just my personal view, of course).
     
  13. SuperGrafx

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    I have high hopes for the new game then. Seems to be in capable hands.
    As it stands, Sega Rally is really the only real reason why I still keep a Saturn hooked up to my second TV.
     
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    The complaints regarding the power-slide are totally subjective. Even in sega rally 2 i always picked the Lancia Stratos (I'm always talking about the arcade version), and drifted my way like a drunk in turns, shaving seconds off my time and kicking alot of ass in two-player mode.

    If one wants to live the SG1 experience on SG2 , just press CHANGE VIEW and lift the hand-break , to have access to the two old cars, the DELTA, and the CELICA ;)
     
  15. SuperGrafx

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    Heh, I've tried that (as well as the other codes and tuning options) and they both still felt "off" to me. Perhaps I'm too picky, but after logging in as many hours on SR1 as I did, it's hard to adjust.
     
  16. Anthaemia.

    Anthaemia. The Original VF3 Fangirl™

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    Sega Rally 2 might have featured the original's vehicles, but so did Touring Car - and they didn't handle anything like I had expected! Fortunately, I've become so used to SR2 that I have the opposite problem to you and find it hard going back to the first game. The phrase "horses for courses" seems very apt right now...
     
  17. SuperGrafx

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    Hehe. True indeed. :)
     
  18. Anthaemia.

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    I was supposed to be at work today, but not feeling well I decided to have a day off - never could I have imagined this morning that I would be discussing Sega Rally to such great lengths! Sticking with the subject, has anybody played the Game Boy Advance treatment of this fine series? I've been meaning to check it out for quite some time now (being a completist and all that), but many reviews seem to suggest that I should steer clear. Sorry, I really will stop it with the racing puns soon - instead I'm going to keep any further potential bad jokes for the "Wii" topic...
     
  19. cahaz

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    Why put revo in the thread name if it have nothing to do with the wii?
     
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    Anthaemia. The Original VF3 Fangirl™

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    This latest game is actually called Sega Rally Revo, though it's definitely not coming out for the Wii - or at least Sega hasn't announced a version for Nintendo's system... yet! I presume this is where the "Revolution" confusion has come from, yes?
     
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