Sega Saturn Copy Protection. Break it get $800

Discussion in 'Rare and Obscure Gaming' started by Quakester2000, Mar 11, 2005.

  1. HI_Ricky

    HI_Ricky Guest

    if you ready know how to make right fromat saturn disc, just find a special buner and ss code data(you can find in mod chip) make is to raw data and pass to special burner to burn on out side ring.
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  2. AntiPasta

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    Segafreak raises a very good point about the MPEG card - what it comes down to, you can't read beyond the first 32k (IP.BIN) of the disc without requesting a security check from the CD block - but the MPEG card doesn't need to, apparently. Same goes for the Photo CD card but that has got it's own security ring just like the System Disc. Perhaps searching for a buffer exploit in the Photo CD OS disc would be best ;-)
     
  3. Segafreak_NL

    Segafreak_NL v2.0 New and improved. Site supporter 2012-15

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    A cartridge which would slide into the mpeg slot only with different data on it..would be nice wouldn't it? Sadly it would probably be very expensive to produce.

    Anyway, I've been thinking about fooling the programs into loading a video cd image or
    photo cd disc but instead load up an alternate bundle of code. (an executable disguised as a video cd/photo cd)

    I know I know it's kinda silly but hey ;)
     
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  4. AntiPasta

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    Yes, a pseudo-VCD card would be quite expensive to produce because the connector is very odd, but also, the pinout is not known, I think. And loading code through the Photo CD OS *might* be possible as I suggested, but I'm not the one who's gonna disassemble the disc to investigate (had enough SuperH asm already)
     
  5. HI_Ricky

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    haha, try use that ,in case you lazy do any dev :)
    [​IMG]
     
  6. What did you use to cut the CD. Also how did you get the saturn to think the 3.5 inch cdr was a 650 megabyte cd. I have tried something similiar to this before by sticking a 8cm to the bottom of a normal saturn game and it only went to the outside of the 8cm cdr to check for a ring as it recognized the disc as 21min.
     
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  7. HI_Ricky

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    anyone saturn cd.
    3.5" cdr just for you put in saturn system disc data( 14MB data)

    what going on system disc doing? haha....:-D
     
  8. What did you use to cut the disc.
     
  9. einbebop44

    einbebop44 Guest

    Just curious, WHY would you want to break the Saturn's copy protection?
     
  10. It isnt me trying to break it, its some people on sega xtreme they had the idea and their idea is correct lets face it CDS only have a shelf life of around 25 years and with wear and tear saturn cds will not be playable in the future.

    I would hate play games via emulators as that sucks, i prefer having the real console and real games if possible but cds dont last im afraid. Also the saturn isnt like the playstation where loads of games were manufactured, some of the rare ones cant be found anymore.
     
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  11. HI_Ricky

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    i pass to work shop do it $10 :)
     
  12. HI_Ricky

    HI_Ricky Guest

    so we can dev game with out lag on saturn protection
     
  13. sayin999

    sayin999 Officer at Arms

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    hi ricky have you tried copy the security ring and testing it on an actual saturn?
     
  14. HI_Ricky

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    yes, i have make 10 worked in last year(all burned to system disc :p ), but i lost the raw files when my powerbookg4 drink LEMO TEA... :(
     
  15. Segafreak_NL

    Segafreak_NL v2.0 New and improved. Site supporter 2012-15

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    Breaking the protection is great for the emu & homebrew scene. Also for -dare I say it-
    rare software such as Taromaru.
     
  16. Funkstar De Luxe

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    If you treate a CD properly it will last way longer than the user. Don't go worrying about CDs dying. Won't happen for a LONG time.
     
  17. Pressed cd's life is at around 25 years as the metal oxidises over time and 50-100 for cdrs.
     
  18. zappenduster

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    and cheap burned up to 5 years damn i have some cdrs from 2000 here that look like cheese, holes all over cause the layer didnt hold on the plastic (and they wherend stored in the sun, they where in a box without light at 22°C the whole time strange thing)
     
  19. Calpis

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    That’s not true, pressed CDs last far longer than CD-Rs. What metal are you referring to? The aluminum layer? It can't oxidize because it's not (well it shouldn't be) exposed to air. CD-Rs are greatly inferior in both their label (and acrylic) quality as well as their polycarbonate plastic which is more so malleable. CD's often have thermal printings which greatly deflect damage to the acrylic and aluminum reflective layer, with a pencil even on some CD-Rs you can tear right down to the polycarbonate. CD-Rs also are prone to loss because A) people don't know how to create lossless backups and B) CD-R dye can be chemically altered to create erroneous data if exposed to enough heat. Also, if you're CDROM's laser is too intense, you may end up damaging your CD-R, CDs capacity for this is far greater because there is no dye to chemically alter.

    If you preserve your CDs in plastic or something, they'll last far longer than you. Sure stuff will go to entropy but in all regards CDs will outlast writeable media.
     
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  20. StarWolf

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    The only downside to selfbooting Saturn backups: How long before profesionally made bootlegs of Taromaru, Radiant Silvergun, Panzer Saga etc start showing up on Ebay? Near perfect copies of Sappire on ArcadeCD are out and about in the world, and I can see people jumping on a chance to make money off Saturn collectors.
     
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