Stop the bricking..

I'm still going with certain boxes. Because iirc I had gabe as a friend, if not I had kiwi and doom as friends who have gabe as a friend. Neither of their boxes have been hit, nor mine. If I'm not mistaken me, kiwi and doom all got our boxes from the same person...

 

I could see that happening. Until then, I am staying unplugged!

 

I'm not sure if it really has anything directly to do with MTW. The MTW scenario doesn't explain why the chinese people got hit really hard early on, and only a handful here in the following days.

On the chinese forum, they've got a topic dedicated to their PNet tags with everyone sharing them publically and matching up with each other, here there is no such thing.

Is it possible they're banning in waves by PTags?

-Doom

 

This has to do with people leaking and fucking with microsoft which I have been warning people about for months so right now im sitting back and enjoying the flame as rome burns down despite my warning nero was on his way. Oh and did I mention I got in 5 more reports of kits dying in the last two days?

 

Thanks for the possible heads up.

 

They work that way with console bans on the retail network so it's very likely they're nuking the consoles after manual inspection of data regarding each specific unit. And honestly I think the main focus of their investigation would be GEOIP information.

Chinese folks were hit first because it was too obvious they had NO LICENCE to use the hardware in first place.

 

You might want to take a break from patting yourself on the back and step down off the high horse there. Especially considering that you were one of the public leakers. Not only did you put up a FULL dev build of Forza 2, but you made sure everyone knew you did it by watermarking it with your name.

It is a wee bit hypocritical to chastize others for publically fucking with Microsoft when you did the exact same thing.

If you want to help, stick to the technical aspects of what is going on. If you just want to post snide remarks about "enjoying the flame" then go to the unmoderated thread.

That is patently untrue. I know of a few thousand fully licensed and 100% legit kits in China. To claim that all kits in China are unlicensed is simply incorrect.


-hl718

 

I meant to illustrate that they would set priorities to strike firstly the most damaging "communities" not that there were no legitimate kits on China.

GEOIP helps them on tracking the units as it allows them to pinpoint closely even the region within a country kits are being used at. An kit that is expected to be in Europe would smell fishy being used in China. Or a kit supposed to be in Japan being at Europe would be the roughly same. That was my point. Someone even mentioned that kits which were supposed to be grind up into shards being sold on black market.

And I meant to mention they would be analyzing the issues in a case by case manner similar to what they do with retail units, using all the information they could gather besides just "this" or "that" to decide "who to shoot"... :shrug:

 

Oh you mean the build that had nothing to do with Microsoft at all or their servers being in danger? That one?

I mean wouldn't you pat yourself on the back if you were trying to warn everyone and they kept treating you like the village idiot till the storm came? My main point is this could all be avoided. Now everyone's collective investment is *poof* out the window. A prime example is two days ago my friend's XNA (very rare) kit was hit and because of recklessness there goes about 2G's in 3 seconds. Also licensed developers are being hit aswell but they get a free replacement so I guess that isn't a problem for them.

 

Since when does a leak of a current gen, first party, dev build have "nothing to do with Microsoft?"

Publically leaking the build was like thumbing your nose at Microsoft. Yes, the retail was already out, but you leaked a build that simply shouldn't have been in private hands. Combined with other high profile incidents (like the Splatterhouse thing and the MTWomg thing) it was plenty incentive to drive Microsoft to follow up on errant kits and ensure that demand for such leaks was reduced by eliminating said kits.

Like I mentioned a week back, if no one has errant kits, then there is no incentive for people to leak dev builds as no one wants to pay for a disc that they can't run.

Leaking current gen stuff is never smart, but small arcade titles aren't in the same league as full version dev leaks. Sure, they get noticed, but PN isn't exactly a secure network. All devs have access to it. Things like the Forza 2 code are supposed to be secure. When dev builds of full version titles are leaking it sets off much louder alarms.

-hl718

 

My build was obtained because the first kit I purchased included it on the HDD when it was never whiped. It was a reviewer build at best and I don't know if you noticed but this whole forum revolves around prototype's and other games. Microsoft gave two shits when I released a 2 year old prototype of a game just like other prototypes before it. Forza was not made by Microsoft they have no interest in it, hell it isn't even an exclusive game anymore it is what it is a prototype review build. It was of no interest to Microsoft and Microsoft didn't even produce the game. Now on the other hand watch what happened when the PN leaks went onto public websites leaked straight from microsoft's private network and then watch how the downloads instantly disappeared the next day and everyones kits started dying... yeah I think that one is your problem.

 

Its pretty much the leaking of unreleased (to be released) games that m$ is pissed about. Not so much proto's of games that are no longer making profit. Now if this was a forza 3 beta that might be a completely different story.

 

Forza games bear the same "Microsoft Game Studios" logo Halo games bear. Because Bungie isn't Microsoft property anymore it doesn't mean Halo isn't. Same with the Forza games which were not developed internally by Microsoft but were published by them.

I think that's the whole point on hl718 line.

 

The whole point is you guys are pointing fingers at something completly irrelevent just like tyler said. That wasn't the cause and you guys know damn well. Its the people with kits on their own network causing problems thats the problem lets not beat around the bush about who dun it, when we know damn well why they are bricking kits. Microsoft doesn't care about a game released 3 years ago that is a half build.

 

Well this is a prototype forum that has sections for modern consoles.

 

Would your friend want to part with the XNA case they are pretty beastly I wouldn't mind having one.

Hawk

 

Not all xna's come in the fancy blue case.

 

I dont think so he has plans for it but I'll ask him.