technology gone wrong... O_o?

How 'bout you not put words into my mouth and draw conclusions on things you know nothing about? My grandfather lives a rural part of Maryland, where there are many many deer. He has a large property, and he has had problems with people coming to hunt on his land for deer and other animals.

Needing a sniper scope to hunt is just pathetic. You are one mother fucking sad wuss-ass hunter if you need a scope to shoot something from 200 feet away.

I'm sure all the people that visit here and its popular supercenters are all hunting for pure meat, right?

 

I'm not even sure if I need to justify that second paragraph with a reply - it basically proved as I said before, you've never gone hunting. I may have been putting words in your mouth, but with comments like that you make it blatantly obvious you are unfamiliar with tools used in hunting, or the reason for them. You obviously didn't read either a word kstyle or myself said concerning the usage of scopes (need I point out that anyone familiar with the sport would never call it a 'sniper scope'?), nor what kstyle said about a small amount of assholes - such as the ones sneaking on your grandfather's land without permission - ruining the reputation for everyone else. Real hunters gain permission to hunt on private lands, and will never waste meat from animals they kill. You're stereotyping a large group of people from all over America by the actions of a small amount of wasteful, irresponsible individuals.

In its defense - and kstyle and others might be able to verify - the Cabelas company which you linked to is very much oriented towards hunters that hunt for meat - my father gets their print catalog, and each one has at least 8 or so pages dedicated to various equipment for processing and storing meat gained from hunting. But also, Cabelas is not JUST a hunting catalog - it carries a huge selection of gear for things like camping as well. Just as how sports/activities like cycling, snowboarding, rock climbing, etc. have a huge range of various gear and accoutrements designed for the people that partake in them, so does hunting - differing firearms, camoflauge patterns for maximum concealment in different environments, etc. Hell, I've got an amazing pair of hiking boots and a wonderfully warm sleeping bag that were purchased from Cabelas, and neither of those is nessicarily a hunting-related accessory.

And since a lot of people seem to think they're so clever with the "but do you really need to hunt for meat?" question, let me put this straight. No, the majority of Americans do not need to hunt for meat. However, the majority of supermarkets do not carry venison, elk, bear, antelope, duck, quail, mountain goat, bighorn sheep, or any of the other game animals commonly hunted in this country. And I can guarantee, they taste nothing like the beef, chicken, and pork available at your friendly neighborhood grocer. And let me put it this way: A hunting license, at least here in Oregon, is $22.50. An elk tag is $34.50. That's $57. So you take your $57, and you go out and shoot an adult bull elk, where the average weight is 698 pounds, and you tell me if you're getting a better deal on the meat there, or buying beef at a supermarket for a few dollars a pound.
And then there's the whole thing about population control. Yes, states in the US have their Department Of Natural Resources, or their Department Of Fish and Wildlife, and one of the many facets of these agencies is keeping track of big game populations and issuing tags (you need a valid state-issued hunting tag to hunt big game legally) accordingly. Have an excess of deer in your area? Odds are, more buck tags will be issued that season, and probably a small amount of doe tags as well. Or maybe the local deer herds aren't doing so well - fewer buck tags, and most likely little to no doe tags will be issued. The point I'm trying to make is that on top of being a sport enjoyed by countless Americans for generations and a way to save money on food, it ALSO aids in the natural selection and population control aspects that can sometimes be hindered by conservation laws and other effects of human interferance.

People like that animal rights activist in the article, or even the guy running the deer farm (which in my opinion are rather lazy and unsportsmanlike ways to hunt) are, as kstyle said, the people who give the bad rap to the ones who are responsible about the sport.

Hunting isn't for everyone - as I said, I no longer hunt, as I hate the mess of cleaning game, and because it was an activity to do with my dad when I lived at home - but there are people who thoroughly enjoy it and who have done it in their families for years. Please don't knock it, especilly when it is sometimes so painfully obvious that you've never tried it.

 

PETA is a HUGE organization, few members in the whole pictures are radical activists/terrorists and their way of life is nothing to slander.

There seem to be misconceptions on both sides of this arguement. Yes, many people hunt for food and others hunt for sport/tradition, yes people are offended at the unsportsmanlike scopes and stuff but in their defense, it actually can make the sport moreso humane.

IMO if you're going to shoot an animal, you better make it count because it's dispicable otherwise. That said, a lot of hunting is done decadently through sport and *PERHAPS* (key word) hunters aren't as respectful as they should be to ethical societies as PETA isn't a just bunch of vegan flowerchildren.

My happy medium is through kosher meats when available and not killing things...

 

Yeah, you have another person kill it for you. Be it a slaughterhouse, or whatever.

 

It is apparent that you are just making shit up now. BTW, there is a big difference between 200 yards and 200 feet. Also going back to your buying deer meat statement, from what I understand it is illegal to sell dear meat. I think you should just shut your mouth right now, because you have already made a big fool of yourself. You are talking a lot of nonsense, and it is clear that you have no idea what you are even talking about. Why the link to Cabela's? So, they sell a lot of stuff for outdoorsmen, not just hunters. Also, I will tell you now hunters hunt for meat and a big set of horns. The deer that the horns come off of does not go to waste. You have gone from being an idiot to being an ass.

@ Mr. Casual

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