The great "Prototype trade-off" thread!

Will do. Ill also need to find a way of dumping stuff from cratridges

 

That's one problem I've considered, people not having dumping equipment. I only have a Retrode to dump SFC and MD carts, myself. I can always offer my Retrode for dumping purposes if anyone really wanted it. Or send the stuff my way, though the less we trust stuff like that in the postal system, the better.

 

I like the topic idea !
Need to buy some rare early builds prototypes now

 

Speaking of Croc, do you have anymore of those? I really enjoyed hacking those betas, I'm actually going to unpack the game, try get the models parsed if possible and eventually I expect to get around to writing a patch to access the other levels etc. I'd probably chip in if something like Croc or something of my interest was in the pool of trade.

I only work in the Tomb Raider area of collecting, could potentially offer bits off although I'd prefer to be able to offer these off to the community in the far future but what the hell... I'm not sure what platforms are eligible. I have Tomb Raider stuff for platforms such as PC/PS1/PS2/PSP/SATURN/TAP and a couple of random Xbox 360 Multiplayer betas/alphas lying around. Nothing ancient though lol. Speaking of you only accepting things which are "prototypes" etc. How does it work for cancelled "ports" of a "final" game? I have Tomb Raider 2 for the Tapwave Zodiac which wasn't released sadly but that's the final game so I guess that does not qualify?

Just wondering.

Cheers.

 

These kind of replies seem to be the trend here at the moment. A user starts a new thread with an idea 'Let's try this or that' and instead of thinking WITH him/her the topic starter is immediately bombarded with criticism and 'that will never work, stupid' type of replies. May I suggest to these users to STAY AWAY from these kinds of threads. Thank you.

Back on topic; I'll add something soon to get this going.

 

If we all should be so super positive, then shouldn't all the people that have prototypes just release them for the public? Wouldn't that be so super positive and pro-everything? Let's just be a sharing community and say yes to everything. I'm up to that - I always share my designs, when someone asks for them. But people who paid big bucks for a prototype, just so they could be the only ones to have them would share something? Not happening. You want to have it? Pay up, preferrably more than the current owner has paid. People keep their shit, because it's worth something.
Let's look at this from another angle. I have a super ultra rare prototype of final fantasy 7 for the n64. I tell everyone about it, show screenshots etc. But then the public goes "dump the rom" "you could share that", I decline of course and then the community starts doing the criticism you've mentioned. May I suggest the people to stay away from me? no, people will do what they want, so stop being so bossy.

 

You're asking people to risk a lot with no one else sharing any of the risk. People should be compensated for their work, these things don't just fall out of the sky (not all the time, anyway). I guarantee if Microsoft chose to follow up with a lawsuit after the cease and desist they sent me that very few people would be willing to stand up there with me. The fact is they do have value, you can't just pretend like they don't. Most of us use the money we get by sharing the cost to obtain more prototypes. I have over 3000$ invested that I didn't have to, some of which went to preserving things that otherwise would have disappeared. You can't just pick and choose which parts of the realities of collecting that you think are right. In the end, what we deserve is none of these games, the fact that any exist is a privilege.

 

You'll find nobody arguing that point amongst archaeologists.

 

I think I'm not understanding your post, or you're not understanding mine (it you were actually replying to me). Isn't your statement:

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what I said?

 

So here's an idea; if you're not interested-> don't respond. You're the one being bossy. You're making decisions for everybody else.

 

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Can someone share the joke? Some of us can't read Japanese.

 

Hard to translate, basically the verb being used to say "try the game out" has its last syllable repeated over and over. Grade-A hilarious material, let me tell you!

Cool, looking forward to it! Regarding any negativity, all I'll say is I'm not the type to let it get to me since it's pretty much expected in topics like this. Just gotta let it slide.

Check the links in this topic here:
http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?43975-Prototype-Releases-of-2013-Thread

Should still work. That'd be great if you could figure out more. I got gameshark codes I made to access all other levels in the early demo, but there's still things not normally accessible I suspect are in there. PM me if you wanna talk more about it, I'd be all for helping out in any way possible!

Cancelled ports that made it on other systems work perfectly fine. My gripe about "final" protos was more directed towards released games. Poor Nintendo Player Mike I know gets tons of these, unfortunately. That's the kind of bad streak I'd like to avoid.

 

What if I would send you some rom of early build of child game for NDS, you'll send me your precious unreleased ROM, and I will release it to everybody?

 

You missed the point, the minority of viewers that get a positive effect are irrelevant compared to the negativity caused by the rabid hoards of people clambering for a game to be released. For an example see resident evil 1.5

From the wording by trading you are not only agreeing to never release what you are given, but also what you give. It also creates an imbalance in the value of what is being traded if you have to give up something he doesn't have to be one of many that gets his game.

 

Well I think I already know not to trust you, buddy It's mostly on me to choose who to trust and just hope for the best. I know there's certain members here that if they did send something they'd be 100% reliable, though.

Anyone who would do that I think would be ruining something that could potentially bring a lot of interesting stuff out into the open. But if you want to use sneaky tactics because you deserve free stuff and no one can tell you otherwise, no one's stopping you from giving it your best.

 

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But how exactly it can bring anything out into the open? You're not going to share anything, and you restrict other guys who will trade with you not to release anything. It will be totally separate sandbox between you and your friends, but I don't see any way, how community can benefit from this. Actually, as you will progress, effect will be quite opposite - everybody gonna hate you because of having in posession a lot of unreleased protos.

 

Thanks for that, I was wondering what I was missing. Now I know and my life is complete.

 

Actually it will encourage sharing between people. True, it's not the whole community, but again, not everyone can get stuff for free just because they want it.

If you're gonna keep looking at it from the "community" viewpoint, which is just another way of referencing those who aren't contributing anything but just want free goods because somehow prototypes have become something that are supposed to be free by default, you're not going to be able to appreciate this whole experiment, so I'd quit trying to find flaws in it while I'm ahead if I were you.