The PSP-4000 thread

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  1. _SD_

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    Check page 17 of this week's MCV magazine for the advert.

    So, one last final refresh of the current PSP hardware before the PSP2 gets announced at Tokyo Game Show 2010. The rumours have been flying around for a whie now. I think it's going to have the same form-factor as the PSPgo, but with a UMD drive in there. It probably will be the best version of the system to date, which is a shame considering it'll be superseded within a very short time.
     
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  2. alecjahn

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    I hope it's $300!
     
  3. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    Ill be upgrading if it is similar to the PSPgo, or at the least not a rehash of the first model as the 2000 and 3000 are, upgraded or not. My 1000 just doesnt cut it, especially on something like Chinatown Wars which is near unplayable on it. With Kingdom Hearts coming out as well, Ill be looking for a new PSP.
     
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    why is chinatown wars unplayable on your 1000?
     
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    If they launch new games that aren't for PSP2 and they aren't compatible with my PSP-1000, they can put their PSP by their ass... >: (
     
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    Its a blurry mess, with the car and everything else ghosting across the screen. I cant stand it. Some games its okay, but others are just awful.
     
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    new DS in 2011 hopefully too
     
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    I wouldn't mind my 1000 if the analog stick wasn't so crumby. I barely even played the damn thing, at least in comparison to how much I assume most people have.
    Hopefully the new one in the mail will do the trick, and keep me from buying a new one. I've gotten this far without upgrading, I can go a little further.
     
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    as I understood it the 1000 has a lower refresh rate. I Still own only a 1000 and it makes playing some games really hard on the eyes.
     
  10. ServiceGames

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    Sony seems to have problems deciding what ought to be in a finished product and what should be cut long before production. Just think of the early model PS3 systems as a production run proto.

    It's odd the way Sony will use the original production run of a product to work out the final phases of testing before they come up with a finalized console.

    *2010 bug repost
     
  11. Herman

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    Nintendo has an excuse to revise their handhelds as they're collectibles.
     
  12. Segata Sanshiro

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    HDLoader. :dance:
     
  13. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    I suppose everybody already read that, but still... http://kotaku.com/5434668/sooprise-sooprise-psp+4000-ad-was-mistake

    Nintendo's hand-held strategy is to basically include support for the current and previous "generation". So for instance the DSI supports DSI games and DS games but drops GBA support. It's at least explainable.

    Microsoft's strategy appears to be mainly software upgrades but they have made improvements to the hardware including adding new features (HDMI port and some storage memory for the newest arcade.)

    Sony's strategy is just bizzaro in some cases. Sony hardware does loose features more often then it gains new ones. I can understand dropping the parallel port, serial port and the RCA A/V ports from the PSX, the Hard Drive and Firewire ports from the PS2. But dropping the PS2 support from PS3's no more than a year was a little more than off. The PS3 Slim loosing Linux support apparently stems from Sony not wanting to invest the time/money in updating the firmware other os support for the slim hardware changes.

    As far as the PSP 4000 goes I'm sure such a model is in preperation to hopefully complete the fragmentation that happened with the PSP go. For those of you who didn't already know the PSP go added bluetooth support which you can use to connect a PS3 controller to get that second analog stick finally. It also changed the removable media to memory stick micro.

    I wish the PSP had more worthwhile games. I like the system but there is just cack all on it making it worth the investment. Even second hand 1000s fetch quite high prices.

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    How many goddamn versions of the PSP do we need? And are Sony admitting now that the Go was a total failure?

    I don't think some PSP2 is going to be announced anytime soon.

    Nintendo and Sony are taking the absolute piss with their handheld consoles. Both systems have been available for about 5 years now and we're on the 4th revision of each, with a potential 5th PSP in the next few months. Thing is, people keep buying them :banghead: Nintendo got away with four revisions of the GBA so it's no suprise they did it again this time round.

    I think we've all come to expect a slimline revision of each PlayStation home console a couple of years after release. But there's no way either company could get away with four distinctly different versions of the Wii or PS3.

    Why not? DVD players change, Cable boxes change, Cell phones change.....

    For once I'm with GoH on this, I don't think it's a bad thing that they improve their product (notwithstanding the PSP Go).

    Yeah, but with video gamed people, at least I do, expect a uniform experience. If I buy a DS game, I shouldn't have to see if it's compatible with my DS machine. Plus, it's a huge investment for children or parents to buy a games console, and they should't have to worry about having an obsolete machine three months from now.

    What I'm worried about is while Nintendo adds features to their hardware, Sony removes features.

    Well Sony doesn't exactly improve. The PS2 Slim loses the hard drive bay but then again who used the Hard Drive anyway besides to rip games?

    Every other sony console loses features instead of adds them. Although doesn't the PSP 2000 and 3000 support VOIP?

    Nintendo removed component from the gamecube as well (BOOOO)

    But revisions of the 360 improved it the HDMI port for example

    Bar the PSPgo which removed the UMD port, the PSP has added stuff constantly, even with the Go. Bluetooth for PS3 controllers on the Go is a feature Id love to have.

    Nintendo removed GBA support on the DSi. So you can't say they don't remove features. Really that's as bad as if not worse than PS3 removing PS2 support.

    the dsi is more akin to the gameboy color

    Sony said before launch that the Go was not a replacement for the UMD PSP. They are just fine tuning the PSP again, just like they did with the PS2. They have an aggressive engineering strategy.

    What have they removed from the PSP, other than the UMD drive on the Go?

    Sony have added a huge amount of features to the PSP and nothing has been added to cause compatibility issues. There is no DS 1.5 (aka DSi) style stuff from Sony.

    the PSP 3000 has the shit screen

    Taucias is to Sony what I am to Nintendo, but I ll give him the PSP go argument, since its XMAS.

    And the fact that they added Bluetooth. And M2 memory card support. And 16GB of included memory, which should justify the price tag somewhat compared to getting a PSP3K + 16GB memory card I guess.

    Nah, I just get tired of all the Sony bashing on this forum, so I feel compelled to defend them. It is a fine forum, nonetheless though.

    I wasn't talking specifically about PSP, when I said "Sony" I was also referring to PS3. It's true that the PSP has added features, but that doesn't make up for the loss of UMD, and all the features removed from PS3.

    Don't forget the PS1 losing all it's awesome Audio capabilities and the PS2 losing it hard drive dock.

    What 'Awesome Audio capabilities' of the PS1? You mean the ones where you have to mod the console anyway to get the awesome quality that most people are talking about? Sure its there, but its not like Sony downgraded the quality all that much anyway, with the PS1 still sounding quite similar according to plenty of tests. And then there are the people who says it comes no where near good players. Better then average for the price probably, but zomg6000$ value? Doubtful.

    And the hard drive dock is only so useful. Cut out the European market while youre there, since they never got the Harddrive kit. Sure, its cut, but the PS2 also added built in remotes at various stages, which Id wager more people used anyway. Was the PS2 HDD even in production by the point the PStwo came out? :p

    http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2006/11/5935.ars

    According to that you don't have to mod it to get great sound

    Go look up the people that actually analyzed the hardware. There are one, maybe two articles based on the audio (the one you link is simply referencing another article and taking their word for it), which is all subjective, especially after the people have been told 'Hey, this sounds great'. Im not saying its bad, but to get the better sound, you need filters, among other mods and hardware. Hell, there are just as many people that say the PS1 sounds about as good as the line out on a decent PC. Again, subjectivity.

    And lol
    Right in the article

    But they said YOU CAN not that you have to

    http://www.qj.net/qjnet/psp/psp-4000-mentioned-in-lbp-accessory-pack-ad.html

    **Update:** Accessories 4 Gamers' license manager Angela Jones has told Negative Gamer that the PSP-4000 mentioned in the ad is "a mistake on [their] part." A4G is the company behind the online ad. Thanks to The LastGuitarHero for pointing it out.

    Sony seems to have problems deciding what ought to be in a finished product and what should be cut long before production. Just think of the early model PS3 systems as a production run proto.

    It's odd the way Sony will use the original production run of a product to work out the final phases of testing before they come up with a finalized console.

    Products change through their life, reflecting what is cost effective.

    Example; Nintendo removed the digital out in late Gamecube, as next to no one used it. It just made it cost more to manufacture. Mega Drive 2, PS2 Slim etc, make them cheaper and easier to manufacture and also give them a new push in the market.

    I don't think Sony are trying to spite us. Features are removed that they deem not to be cost effective or unused. It's business.

    It's a bit boring that they cut the Linux option on PS3 though.

    And is it just me who thought the MD2 was useless? I understand that Sega wanted to upgrade the Master System, but Megadrive didn't need that. In my opinion, the useless upgrades to Sega's machines is what doomed them.

    It still spite to me why is it that the Xbox GAINS features in each revision?

    They have to try and lure all of us back that left it somehow. And really, hardware wise, what has it gained? HDMI? Software, sure, but the PS3 adds software stuff as well, as well as having a browser so something like Facebook, while slick on the 360, isnt a number one priority.

    What is the practicality of Linux on Ps3? It was probably cut so they could stop offerig customer support for it or something. I'm sure there was a valid reason.. The Mega Drive revision made it cheaper to manufacture (no headphone, Multi-out, smaller etc) so I doubt it 'killed' them. The Mega Drive did really well.. the 32x and CD don't really count as 'revisions', if thats what you were thibking..

    No, but it counts as an upgrade.

    Hard drive dock on PS2 yes, although only a few games ever used it. But the PS1 had multi-AV out, which included the same ports they removed.

    To compete with the competition.

    Don't forget GBC support from GBA Micro.
    =)

    I gave up, It's just not worth the effort and some people here have the memory of a fish.
     
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    Speaking at Sony's Gamescom press conference, new SCEE president Jim Ryan revealed that a new model of the PSP will debut in Europe later this year. This new PSP variant will sport a refined design, though it will not include WiFi. The kicker, however, is the price: a mere €99.00. The new model is expected to launch this fall in Europe. No mention was made of a launch in other territories, but we'll let you know as soon as we hear something!

    Update: PlayStation Blog Europe has posted a few more details about the device. The new PSP will be dubbed the E-1000 and will feature the same matte finish as the PlayStation 3 slim console. As the handheld will lack WiFi, the only way to connect to the PlayStation Store will be via Sony's Media Go software. So, uh, we hope there aren't any Mac users among the E-1000's prospective buyers.

    A range of discounted UMD titles is also planned to launch alongside the device, including EyePet Adventures, Invizimals: The Lost Tribes and FIFA 12. Each game in the new lineup will be priced at €9.99.

    Strangely, another feature completely lacking from the E-1000: Liquid metal.
     
  16. randyrandall

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    That's a really good price, hopefully it'll drive down prices of the older models..
     
  17. Johnny

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    I don't see the point of spending 100 bucks on this, specially with the lack of wi-fi. Why they even bothered to make a new version is already weird.

    Anyone that cares for portable gaming are already looking forward the PSVita or getting a 3DS or a new cellphone.
     
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    I don't get this?? Do we really need a 5th version of the PSP, i mean we've had 1000, 2000, 3000 and the GO. I'd rather just get a 3000 or GO if i wanted a PSP.

    Anyway Vita is coming and we have 3DS.
     
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    Yeah, but Vita can't play UMDs. I like the fact that Sony's wagging an external UMD drive to transfer games from disk to Vita just like they did with the Go. What boggles the mind is that people are getting excited for it... gamers have such short memories.

    That must be why Sonic games continue to sell.

    Think of the difference a way to transfer your PSP library to the Go would have made. I liked the Go, but the fact that 95% of what I wanted to play on the PSP wasn't available for it made me dump it.
     
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    Were the problems with the PSP-3000's screen ever solved? Or was it a case of "this isn't a flaw, its a feature!"?
     
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