Uk currency hit due to brexit, take advantage

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  1. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    Younger people are angry, but if the same people who voted in 1975 to join EEC now think it's best to leave, somehow their voice is irrelevant?

    England is strong, and being forced to pay for Greece and other nation's internal issues isn't fair.

    Germany is 88 billion into Greece, and do you think the average Greek person could care or be grateful? No. They still want
    their full lifetime pension at 58 while hiding their income and paying no taxes. You can't fix some places, you need to let
    basic economics run it's course and correct the economy.

    UK is but the first to leave the EU. Scotland wants to stay, fine, but they have no real resources to sustain themselves as a first world nation in any way apart from some volatile oil. EU is not going to hand Scotland 15 billion pounds a year to just exist as part of EU.
     
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    The demographic imbalance in that vote means that, in a good proportion, people that voted "stay" will live with the "leave" decision much longer than the people that voted "leave".

    This is a distortion that's inherent to the majority rule, and it is understandable that it upsets people. It opens an interesting question on the limits of the majority rule too. e.g. Could an extreme demographic imbalance allow the elderlies to stop funding education properly to concentrate on health? Or, on the other side, allow a populous youth to stop providing proper care to the olds in order to fund their needs? Are there mechanism implemented to prevent such situations? What about minorities? Geographic imbalances like Scotland/England?

    I want to stress that I'm not stating my opinion on that vote. As far as I understands, it was done democratically and properly and as such should be respected. As I'm completely uninvolved in this situation, my opinion is not pertinent and would be uninformed/disconnected anyways.
     
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    If you're from Canada, be careful buying online stuff might not get delivered because Canada Post workers are having a strike, work stoppage. If you're a ebay seller in Canada, look into ending your listings or putting them on vacation so people can't get stuck not getting their things.
     
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    Not true. There's lots of work there but you have to actually work. They didn't stop there because the welfare checks don't cover rent. They're welfare immigrants.

    Yeah, that's called a democracy. It doesn't open any questions unless you want to live in North Korea.
     
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    Read the rest of my post before you quote me to make me sound like a facist.
     
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    Yes. In developed countries there are mechanisms implemented. In undeveloped countries everyone is poor, so they've got some kind of balance going on too :p
     
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    I spent over 10 years working with Polish, Hungarian, Lithuanian, etc... students in London and the situation isn't the same. Of course there's work in those countries, just like there's work here in Italy - but it's much (much) easier to find work in Northern Europe - this is a plain and simple fact. You also have more chance to progress up the ladder and be treated equally.

    This is why there's been a mass movement of people out of Eastern European countries looking to find work in places like the UK. Furthermore, one of the great things I miss about the UK (possibly the only thing....well, that and pork pies... and scotch eggs....and proper bacon!) is its cultural diversity. I won't say I'm the most well traveled person but I've lived in a number of different countries and the UK has always been very welcoming to immigrants - The reason for this is because the UK has a long, long, history of immigration dating back 100's of years. Even after WW2 the UK government were literally paying people to come there, from the Caribbean Islands, India, etc.

    This is why the 'leave' vote is so depressing - The UK is a remarkable place where people of all nationalities live side by side and tend not to kill each other. I'm not saying it's without problems or in any way 'easy' - but compared to the South of Europe - Yes, it's light-years ahead. Italy (as an example) really only started opening its borders to immigrants in the last 20-30 years to give you an idea of the difference.

    I think anyone fleeing a war-torn country would probably clean your garden for a simple meal and a glass of water. The reaction in Eastern Europe is typical of the mentality that most people have there - immigration is something new. The concept of a multi-cultural society frightens a lot of people... which is a perfectly normal defense mechanism. It takes time (lots of time) for people to change.

    Go to a remote city in China and some people will look at you like you're an alien that's just stepped off a spaceship. It's a natural human reaction. It's just a fear of the unknown.

    Things take time.... and have a heart, they're not welfare immigrants.

    Have you ever lived on the dole (welfare) in the UK? It's not pleasant. I spent a year in a damp bedsit surviving on what I'd now call scraps (or very bad food). Sure, in retrospect I'm glad I went through it (and was able to finish my schooling) but I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy. It's a depressing place to be... or more accurately, rock bottom - short of going insane.
     
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    Exactly, so everything you know about their countries came out of their mouths.
    I've been there, I know people who live there right now. There is work but you have to actually work.
    Funny, how come they don't do that in Greece. There's plenty of food and water there.
    Save your emotional (invalid) arguments for the faint of heart.
    Good for you. It's not going anywhere. Nobody said anything about mass deportations so I really can't see how cultural diversity is relevant to the discussion.
    No. But I know that your prisons are literally equivalent to three star hotels in the countries where these welfare migrants come from. So you're "unpleasant" dole life is equivalent to the life of an afghani prince (in their eyes).

    Also, Arnold, stop wearing women's clothing ok? It's called that way because it's made for women. You're not a woman, you're not fooling anyone but yourself.
     
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    Must confess, was rather high as the proverbial kite when I made my post... actually, I'm quite surprised I was able to string a sentence together.

    I'm not sure your view of England is quite the same as mine, which is fair enough - to each their own.
     
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    Closing this, as you all had to make it political. It's gone way off topic, which was taking advantage of the Pound-Dollar exchange rate.

    You know the rules - only discuss politics in the political thread.
     
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