US let BEE KILLING pesticide be used probable die off cause

You see, Wikileaks is good because you know how fucked up things are but bad because of the anger. Too much anger is not good for the world. I wish someone would closethat f*ing site down for good. It's as if the prick behind it is trying to start world war 3.

 

It's interesting; the thought of the next world war taking place on the web... WORLD WAR III

 

many people already knew how fucked up the world was. wikileaks is giving the proof now. so what. why close that site...

anyway, that pesticide shit is awful....and a german company is producing it :dammit:

 

Got a link to the cable? I can't find it.

 

Um... am I missing something here? People and companies use pesticide on lots of other animals - what's so particularly bad about using it on bees?

 

Yes, now that you mention, it ignorance is bliss. The truth is highly overrated! Let's all put our fingers in our ears and pretend everything's fine; that's the adult way to tackle the situation.

 

Bee's pollinate which makes plants "fruit" without them you've to hope the wind will to the job... which it won't do much so the planted crops will be mostly waste with little veggies and fruits to show for the season we all starve eventually... or start breeding bugs high in protein sustain our life instead.

Basically without bees every ones quality of life will drop and many will die of starvation/malnutrition.


forgot to mention imho anyone against wikileaks is a douche.. cause I mean seriously come on why not just lock ourselves indoors and hide ourselves from the truth, why form your own opinion from facts when the news can spoon feed you their own biased agenda via spun lies twisted truths and misinformation.

/rant

 

WWIII has been going on for awhile,.. it's better known as "The War on Terror" at least that's what they call it here in the US... I like to think of it as the heroin/oil wars myself.

 

Many fruit farmers use human pollinators, just an additional cost. The real cost of a declining bee population is the environment and wild flowering plants.

 

Damn that would be a tedious job... not sure the illegal immigrants would want to do that one XD

When I was 17-18 I worked for a hydroponic greenhouse and we had little cardboard bee hive boxes in each one, they just fly about their business getting the job done and leave you alone to do your job. It's hard to imagine someone going to every single flower... cost of produce would skyrocket to an insane and likely for many unobtainable price. :/ imho the majority would still die

 

WWIII was the Cold War. We are living a fourth, more sinister war, of those with power and money against the rest of us.

The way they're using bogus charges and the whole weight of the law against Assange is proof that there is no longer any legitimacy to this system. There's no laws for some people, and the law can destroy others, even if innocent.

I'm not sure whether I like the guy, but I've seen this manipulation of the "law" happen, and let me tell you, it's proof that this political perspective is no longer viable.

 

About as tedious as fruit picking I'd imagine!

In areas where there aren't enough bees fruit farmers also hire in bees (probably what your work was doing?) and that takes 1-2 hives per acre, so there is still a decent cost there. I'd imagine a person could probably do an acre a day or two depending on accessibility so while probably more expensive, not massive amounts considering its unskilled work. The main problem will be scarcity of land due to over-population.

 

Yes I think we bought the bees, the box's were only about 8x8x8 inches and we had 2 to a greenhouse.

But still quite a bit more tedious than picking for sure (snatch and grab vs. prodding into each tiny flower) We live on an acre here and i can't imagine me alone on my hands and knees pollinating that much in one day XD

And for fruit trees it would be even worse

And thinking about it, it takes me 2-2.5 hours to "push mow" the lawn here.. and that's just walking behind the mower at a decent pace to cover an acre... plus house, driveway, trees etc so I'm not really even cutting a full acre of grass.

But of course arguably some crops would be much easier/faster than others and if it really came down to it the new cash crops would be the ones that could be plentiful with the least amount of work.

 

The pesticide was to fight other bugs, it just so happens that the bee is also susceptible to the toxin.

What BAYER will do is sell the rights to this toxin and chances are that other companies will buy it and manufacture it for use in markets that have yet to ban the stuff.

That's why DDT is still wide spread around the world.

 

ASSEMbler: now you know, and all others who read this post. Why I am some times ashamed of being a Danish guy, but at least I am trying to do something about that image personally and philosophically. But at the same time, I am proud of being a Dane who says with love in his voice, that Denmark is a fucked up country, but it is MY country, so to speak.

 

Sounds like you spun it better than the Republicans here could ever. WikiLeaks is a necessary evil so long as the US government feels the people answer to it instead of the other way around. For as many problems it causes for the individual it reveals so many more against the powers that be.

With this though maybe the farming community will get pissed off and lobby congress to get something fixed.

 

Nothing will change. But considering how hush hush theyve kept this ("Oh noes, bees keep dying, and we cant figure this out"), I am glad that the information is out there. If the government didnt lie to the people, then there is no need for wikileaks. Bees are extremely important to life, ours included, so hopefully someone can get on this and stop it before it gets any worse.