WARNING: SCAMMERS TWILIGHT, MELMAC

At ePSXe better play with the image. To avoid it lags.

I have Debugging Station for PlayStation. I can pass on the game console, but what meaning, if the volume of discs are identical 1:1?

 

Now thats just stupid. Just because the Game id is the same doesn't mean its a retail copy. The AFAIK the game IDs are issued by sony so it should be applied to all version so they no what game they are dealing with.

 

I once again recommend that someone bring the banhammer down on this. Obviously Twilight has no idea what he is doing or saying...

 

Why could not immediately DreamTR warn that the differences can not be?

 

Sorry, but I collect other versions of the game Crash Bandicoot only from Naughty Dog.

 

Probably time to lock this thread before it turns into a monkey shitfest flamewar...

 

It hasn't already?

<ducks>

 

I have to agree with EvilWays. I think that we can all appreciate the scammer warning, as well as some further information on the beta/preview/review disks out there for some of the newer members to look at.

Both parties have now had their say. However, since this has actually become a chargeback issue and it seems clear that neither party is going to change their position, I think that further discussion should be handled privately. We could all continue to chime in on how we feel about the issue, but the truth is that none of us are involved in this situation.

 

+1

To moderators: please, close or delete the topic.

 

I am gonna say I don't like the way this and the previous scam thread (concerning Kreig747) were handled at all.

I think the proper way for this to have been handled was for the thread to have been locked right after Dot50Cal's initial post, instead of bringing the rest of the forum into this. Besides, I think this was more of a misunderstanding (expecially with a middleman involved) than a flat-out scam.

This was just asking for trouble.

 

I'm recognizes that these original discs that have appeared before the release of games. And I does not condemning DreamTR.

Just I am not ready to buy discs for 100+ USD, games that do not have any differences from conventional games on CDs. A DreamTR does not want to check the CD. I would have bought it some more disks, but there is no guarantee that version will differ from the finals. On some CD written by the date of build or the date of completion percentage. But DreamTR not even want to provide such information.

The bad blocks on the CD - is protection from copying. I have successfully create the image with the help of CloneCD. But why would I need one? ..

To DreamTR:

Sorry, but you do not want to take their goods back. And do not want to hear about it. Just why my friend had to open the dispute in PayPal. While I waited until the last week and pulled it. But I need to return the money, and other methods to do so.

You did not say anything that no distinctions can not be. Ty said that sells the beta version and I am ready for them and pay more. Although it depends on the game. I do not think that will get the retail version.

Why was unnecessary to do so much? Becoming informed administration ASSEMblergames, which said that I scammer, remove my topic and created this topic...

I very much appreciate and respect the ASSEMblegames community and do not intend to deceive anyone. I would not like to earn a very bad reputation in this forum.

About MelMac you can forget immediately. This account is my friend, but it is far from the games and still does not understand anything. I simply asked him to buy something. Removing his account did not change. He still did not write anything else on the forum.

:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:

Sorry for my bad english.

Andrey aka Twilight.

 

This is the way I see it:

Seller sold as Beta,
Buyer bought as Beta, right?

Seller can't be held responsible for the contents of the disc, whether it differ from the final or be a 1:1. It's been stated many times in this thread that the disc may have been given out for review or testing. Just because it's a Beta or Alpha or whatever doesn't mean it's going to differ from the final build.

You can't justify a refund due to the disc not containing what you had hoped for. You can assume it's going to have differences, but unless you have seen the disc before or know the exact contents - it could contain anything.

I've never dealt with the seller before, but from what I can see - he sells betas and alphas quite frequently without problems. You bought the disc as a beta and are trying to refund for a copied CD-R. Low low low. Accept responsibility for your own actions. You got what you paid for.

amirite?

 

But why claim that sold beta? Posted that be he ready to sell the discs, which was received prior to the release of the game, but he does not bear responsibility. All it would be understandable. But it was stated that this beta version, and therefore formed the problem.

The whole reason that he called this a beta version!

Incidentally, it's not written on the disks. Written is a date of the build (one and a half months before release), the name of the game and a code.

DreamTR, the third disc was PAL, right?

 

Twilight: Have you checked the text in these games then? Wouldn't these pop up with all Japanese text if that was the case and be the same as released version.

These are English betas, so I'm really confused about that one. You just said it was 1.5 months before release, which is plainly labeled on the disk.

You said these were exact to the Japanese version, and all three versions I had are English betas.

What needs to be understood as that you need the money, and these do not have debug menus. It's not fair for you to have buyer remorse when you received something from me that is beta, but just not the level you want.

If you want your money back, send me the games back to the address I sent in the PayPal dispute, but I want everyone warned that this guy is not good to deal with, and I will never deal with him again.

 

I'm got one NTSC/U/C version and one NTSC/J version...

 

I understand that this type of software is very hard to describe. and from the reputation I know about you, you are reliable and knowledgeable.

Hope everything works out for both parties.

 

I told him to send the games back and I'll refund him when they arrive to me minus the EMS shipping. It's up to him to do that now.

 

Glad to see it's sorted to some extent.

Maybe a 'Sold as is, described to the best of my ability.' on listings may stop this from happening again.

 

I'm checked the date of burning CDs. This originals. But not beta versions ...