Was there ever a saturn cart that let cdr play?

Where did you hear that crap? First, you would need to be able to read the 'ring' to see what's on it.

 

not sure whether the old board or Segaextreme but there was rather long thread on this security ring at around early this year...

believe there was no easy way to duplicate unless you happen to own ex-Sega factory where they did press saturn disc... :-D

It's a pattern.

I am sure if you knew how, you could use one of the yamaha drives that can burn images into free space to make one.

But then again I have a boot cd, so not going to bother finding out.

 

Haha, noone will be able to burn the ring! As far as I remember, there's actually some pretty interesting security methods in a saturn disc.

Oh, and the 21 pin machine is hard to get???? Geez I must have 10 of them in the house! It is far easier to get a newer machine than an old chip or hacking a new chip!!

 

No it's not. You think the saturn just looks at at and sees 'Sega'? Way, way more complex than that. I'm not sure if anyone out side of Sega even knows what it is.

 

Actually, I've seen that discussion on many different places, including electronics forums, games forums, computer hardware forums and cd burning forums. I think it's amazing that so many people has discussed and searched about the subject and no one has ever come up with any solid information.
I wonder if hl718 has any info on this

 

I was over simplied things... :-D
obviously it's a lot compliacted and I haven't followed with saturn dev scene much...

 

So...what is ricky talking about when he says some people can already burn the "sega ring"?

 

Something to do with a dodgy curry?

 

LOL.

Nah, you can't read the sega ring on a conventional drive... the mechanism doesn't normally go out that far... or for burning, I can't remember.

I have some documentation somewhere (I think on a Sega disc) regarding copyright protection for Saturn, and particular files or code that need to be on the CD.

I don't believe there ever was a cart that could bypass the ring check. I don't believe anyone knows whether that ring has data in it, or just reflects in a certain way that can be identified by the machine. And I don't believe anyone will crack the protection and be able to make self booting CDs.

 

I wonder what actually happens to the manufacturing hardware for these old custom disc formats? Though the Saturn CDs might have been made on standard production lines (I don't know for sure, but it's plausable), surely the Dreamcast GD-ROM production thingys are totally useless for anything else? And with most consoles the games were produced in more than one place - PAL GD-ROMs all said "EMI CD HOLLAND" around the centre, and PAL PS1 games were/are made in Austria, for example - so the facilities for making these discs aren't exactly one-of-a-kind or anything. Then again I imagine the disc pressing machinery is pretty big shit - not exactly collector-friendly!

 

The discs were pressed by Sega, or by someone who was contracted by Sega. They signed an NDA. The equipment would have belonged to Sega, and been recalled and most likely destroyed when production ceased. Just like most masters of anything are.

 

maybe Sega shipped tons of custom Saturn CD-R to those pressing factories... :-D

 

By pins, do you mean the number of pins on the white ribbon cable equalling out to be 21/20 pins?

Earlier released Saturns have the 21 pins so using the modchip is capable, then?

 

Don't think so. Everything use to boot fine using Frank Hurts Baseball as the boot disc.
Can't really do any testing ATM as somethings fucked on the Saturn. I can get the games to boot but they rarely get past the title screen and even if they do levels won't load properly.
Hoping it's the Saturn and not the Magic Card(no idea where to get another).

 

For any boot disk, either get one thats made to be used as a boot disk or a demo disc. I learned this through doing it on the PSX where if you used a boot disk, any kind, the older the less chance you get track mixed up.

 

Well hooray I suppose. It's all working now. Kinda sad that my memory is a piece of shit though.
After a few hours of trying different boot discs, cleaning dust out of the cartridge port and taking an eraser to the carts contacts I finally figured it out when I accidentlly booted with a copy in the drive.
You have to boot with the copy first, then swap to the original and reset then swap back to the copy. There's no timing involved as the Magic Card completley stops the drive in the Saturns OS.
Now that it's working again I can finally play Dragon Force :smt082 :smt082 (hope it's good).

 

But not expensive

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