What the FUCK is wrong with people in China!?!

Blame Communism

 

These people give me a right to be a racist. Fucking bastards, have they got no soul? I'm sure there's the "not everyone is like that" argument but this sort of this wouldn't have happened in most countries around the world. Even if there was a dickless idiot hitting a child, people would NEVER pass by and do nothing in most CIVILIZED countries - hell, even many uncivilized ones. I honestly would rather get sued and save a 2 year old child that neglect it for what? money? fuck that, people should know their place in the universe and stop thinking about man-made laws if that's what's bothering them. There is NO excuse.

I'm sorry to say that this a huge minus point from me for China and its culture.

This isn't the thread to be even remotely funny or sarcastic, just put yourself in the position of that child's parents. Politics and human solidarity have nothing to do with each other.

 

Who said I was trying to be funny or sarcastic?

 

What does communism then have to do with a hit-and-run and people neglecting the child? Please elaborate. in the Unmoderated thread.

Just by mentioning politics you're risking the shut down of the thread, at least don't be so selfish.

 

Historically communists show less empathy than non communists.

 

I have to say I was taken aback initially by what I thought was racism, which comes in so many forms and flavours these days I can't fucking keep track.

I've known shit loads of Chinese people and not a one of them would condone what's been described, but at the same time I have very little knowlege myself of China and what goes on there.

There's no way in hell I'm watching that video, I almost fell out with a close mate perminently for suggesting it'd be a good idea to watch f**** of d****. Censored that because I believe nobody living a peaceful happy life should see it, though if you really want to know then PM me otherwise you know what it is.

The main thing I'm here to say is that the Chinese may be responsible for some awful shit nowadays.

But that pales in comparison to what the Japanese did to them.

Note: Don't look this up unless you like having perminent sick stains on your mind. You'll have to highlight to see it (I hope).

Google "Unit 731"

Why bring this to your attention? Well I believe that all nations carry their mistakes with them and learn from them.

I wouldn't call the Chinese a race with no soul - me personally, remember I don't condone whats going on there or indeed what's happened. But I'm a strong believer that they will right themselves and in time we'll be saying the same thing about another nation.

It's just SHIT that tragic events are the only way the human race learns anything.

The US dropped the atom bomb on the Japanese which is the most destructive force the world has ever seen, and don't get me started on the british!

I may have gone overboard here, but its only an attempt to offer a sense of perspective on the BIG picture.

Obviously it's fucking awful what happened!!!!

 

There's a movie about the Japanese crimes that you mention, it's called Men Under the Sun and it's quite graphic in nature..I like to believe that people, as well as their standards should evolve. Else we are no better than maggots.

 

Oh, too right that the past of many countries was awful but we now live in a modern time were that sort of behaviour is gone. The Japanese were just as bad or worse than Nazis back then but I do believe they have learnt there lesson.

When I lived in the UK I had many Chinese friends who are all cool. We knew nothing about China apart from they were the rip-off capital of the world. Since moving to Japan I've learnt so much more about Asians. But what gets me the most is the bare faced lies the Chinese pull when EVERYTHING proves them wrong. There's also shit like their rip-off of Disney land with so called original charters. The people who dress up in costumes remove their heads for a smoke in the middle of the part, abuse children and the parks themselves have awful safety records. All this was shown on TV in Japan. A rollercoaster crashing but everyone just went on as normal. The last high speed train crash were they didn't even bother to look for survivors properly and finally that world longest bridge they built. The BBC went there and were shocked to report that many fixtures could be moved by hand!

The nation as a whole needs a right good kick up the arse. If they want to be a respected 1st world country they have to fall in to line. I feel like I'm drifting away from the main point of this thread so I'll stop here.

Yakumo

 

I'll just chime in.

1: Borman makes a great point. Totally fucked up -- people get sued for helping all the time.

2: As wheela said, yes, similar (although not quite this extreme) shit happens everywhere.

3: Who the fuck can't see a 2 year old in the road? That's really what's appalling here. WTF people. Learn how to drive. God damn.

Don't confuse dictators with citizens of a communist nation.

Really? Wanna go there? Nobody (including almost every Japanese) will condone what the Imperial Army did. That was 60 years ago. This was last week.

Anyhoo, my take on it is that race doesn't really play into here, but culture does. You see people not help in Tokyo on a daily. I went horizontal one time (riding my bicycle) and landed on the pavement and took a bath in iced coffee. This was at like 8AM on a Tuesday. As resident of Japan would expect, 5 people just walked by and didn't bat an eye.

The circle of trust in a over-crowded, Asian region is not really something westerners can easily grasp. It is a redefinition of "I'm not my brother's keeper". So on that note, I'm not really shocked that it happens in China, as it happens in at least Tokyo on a daily basis. I'm still shocked that Chinese drivers are just as awful as Japanese ones -- or at least Tokyo drivers, which I can say without a bit of racism.

 

I like to believe that, but we're capable of really horrific things. For instance apparently the US wanted the data the general in question had gathered over the years so badly that he offered him immunity from his war crimes in exchange for translating the records into English.

History teaches us we do learn from our mistakes and misguided ideas though, well it has done so far anyway...

EDIT: FYI this post was written before I realised there were other posts above mine submitted!

 

Too right. It's not like the driver was going fast. There was no way the driver could have not seen the child unless he was fucking blind. But yeah, they can't drive for shit anyway.

 

Or perhaps "feel" something funny when the child is lodged under it? Good lordy.

 

I realize you understand, I also realize that I'm dealing with a guy who has a LOT of anger inside because of this.

You have to remember that China as a nation is growing so unnaturally rapidly that the - lets face it - scarce few in charge of this nation of billions can keep up with what's going on. I know we're in the modern era and shit like this shouldn't be happening but this nation hasn't and can't afford at the moment to have the morals other countries have if they want to grow.

Laws cost time and money to implement and this is clearly something the Chinese aren't arsed about implementing at the moment. EDIT: It cost the UK something like 150 - 300 Million (under review) to implement law and order over the last year (probably a LOT more). Reason I know this is because of the recession and it's been all over the news ect... (got that wrong initially!)

What can we do though? declare war? most of the western world has their shit produced there.

Again, not condoning, just speculating.

 

The China-specific tariffs for one that I whole-heartedly support. They price-fix their fucking currency to their benefit and don't expect any blow-back. Rocket scientists.

 

Not 100% sure what you mean there, but If I've guessed correctly it's because they can afford to do this because they've such a powerful output as a nation as a whole that their government is taking advantage of their industrial output and not considering the needs of the nation for a second.

Not sure I interpreted what you said right though so I'll leave it there mate.

EDIT:
Also - Yakumo check out my edit in my last post regarding law enforcement costs. That is nothing like definitive but it is however I believe somewhere like close to the mark including prison costs, benefit in it's entirety and every other service and dignity offered to the general public of the UK.

This kind of behavior (as you refer to) has never been stamped out entirely and just as people will continue to read the news, because - hey it publishes bad news early warning style - we as a race are in no danger of changing any time soon, and I include all races in that 'we'.

What the Chinese have done is shit, but my point is that what most of the human race is doing and continuing to do is fucking hideous beyond words. Take a look at what's just happened with the banking sector recently for fucks sake. Are we any better for screwing each other over to such a degree that people are now DIEING through lack of funds for food and fuel?

 

Just google around -- it's everywhere. They set FX rates of their currency. Always. The market doesn't decide like with other currencies. They do. How much they weaken it depends on who you talk to. Some say as much as 30%. An over valued currency (like the Japanese yen) is deadly to export-heavy industries (like Japan). This makes Chinese products cheaper, and thus, gives them an edge. The Obama administration says that it is likely to levy a tax on Chinese imports to offset their fucked policy.

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It's a slight tangent, but I brought it up as you were saying, "what can we do" in regards to everyone having their shit made there. There are certainly things we can do. Whether we will or not is another story entirely.

 

Apologies Yakumo mate, this is indeed a tangent.

Ganjin - there was an answer to the question I posed of course. The US interpret this as impose a 'panic' tax on all imported goods as far as I understand it.

That won't work the same as imposing a ban on liquor did in the 1930s, they're going to have to ether do better than that or accept defeat which the Americans have little history of doing in my opinion.

Oh by the way, no idea about Obama policy, apparently people are getting pissed with that guy - would love to know why. No idea as UK policy regarding China imports is not mentioned at present.

Good points raised anyway...

 

I do not even know what to type...
That is not human.

 

Yakumo, I'm really not impressed that you've posted that video here in the slightest mate.

I implore you to edit that post and remove that video. The description is enough.

I've watched it now myself, and while I can say I've seen a far, far worse neglectful side of humanity myself. You've posted this video on assembler games for f'ks sake mate.

KILL IT, get rid, PLEASE! This isn't the place people should loose their innocence mate!!

 

Why not let people read the disclaimer and decide for themselves? This isn't China, after all.

See what I did there?