Wii Mini: possible exploit?

Discussion in 'Modding and Hacking - Consoles and Electronics' started by everett1911, Feb 21, 2014.

  1. -=FamilyGuy=-

    -=FamilyGuy=- Site Supporter 2049

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    If you got the hardware to dump the nand, you probably can dump the encryption keys or access the unlocked nand directly. Which would mean you could patch it with ios/drivers/exploits. This is high level stuff, if you got to ask you probably can't do it on your own without deep further research.

    Don't take my word for it though, I'm no expert at hacking Wiis.
     
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  2. everett1911

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    Well I had more the program to make nand backups in mind. but since it dumps the nand to the root of the sd storage (Which is internal on the mini), how would I move the data to a usb stick?
     
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    But how could you execute the program that dumps the nand if you can't execute homebrew code? As BadAd said it's a chicken egg problem. (Like hacking/jailbreaking pretty much any device, you gotta find a way to hack the reproduction system between the egg and the chicken)
     
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  4. everett1911

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    Going back to my original post, I mentioned a possible exploit that basically is the wii version of the ps2 independence exploit, aka fooling the console into running homebrew software off a modified dvd copy. if I'd be able to pull that off (I doubt nintendo considered that possibility as the original consoles couldn't be exploited using that method due to how DVDs are inserted), I'd be able to install the homebrew channel and one program or two.
     
  5. kyo86sg

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    I was thinking, its better to mod-chip this console as its possible exploits seems to be in my opinion "rather limited". The mod-chip will be just solely to play region free "burned copy" of games, No emulation or stuff like it. Not sure if TS is looking at this aspect.
     
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  6. everett1911

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    the modchip could let you play homebrew too. I remember playing homebrew PSX games on CDs, emulators and all
     
  7. Flash

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    Thing is - PSX and Wii are quite different. The only way to enable homebrew in Wii mini is to use BGA rework station, dump firmware and keys and then re-flash modified firmware. After that you'll need to solder SD card slot and other missing components and still you'll be unable to use component cable or HDMI adapter. Of course, it's theoretically possible to create a modchip that will allow installation of HBC and stuff but that's too much work for crippled version of Wii.
     
  8. Lum

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    Well if you could get around the disc security, certain homebrew might run once burnt correctly. But newer Wii drives became harder and harder to crack.

    It's looking likely a modchip will do nothing else except genuine import games.
     
  9. Riki

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    Wii Mini is a waste of time. Only a drive emulator may be an option. Better to sell it and get used Wii with GC ports.
     
  10. Bad_Ad84

    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    I have all the stuff for dumping the NAND too. The keys for the encryption are stored in the OTP area of the hollywood chip. You would need to be able to run code on the Wii or decap and dump the chip - which would most likely make the chip not work and the keys useless for any other Wii anyway.
     
  11. Flash

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    This.

    Maybe there's a way to run the code without decapping and dumping chip, but it involves countless hours of work to find some kind of exploit or to build a drive emulator. I'd rather spend the time on cracking Vita, for example, as it's good for emulators and stuff and more reliable than those android consoles.
     
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    ^^ :smile-new:
    please do! (if it's a flash card equal for the upper proprietary mc socket, take what i can get)
    got a vita on ofw 2.61 in a corner, IGNORED, unloved, HATED...DESPISED! (and i have $ony on my shit-list, don't care to be friendly with ANY present day commercial $ony 'dev'...)
    got it super-cheap, gave it away, short while later comes back. not the only one given up on vita! :concern:
    it'll be a decent ps3 controller...
    ...
    as for the subject, i'd have a wii mini if it was crackable.
    a scaled-back (albeit GIMPED) console specific to wii games themselves (no HB outside of dvd/hdd/rom/dump management) i could use an energy efficient wii.
    the setup i have is untouchable, but in a situation 12v DC (a few amps at least) was the standard, like a vehicle, that mini may shine...a bit.
    just there, on a power consumption level. (a custom project even)
    other than that, can't see myself ever getting one.
    if one falls into my lap for free, like the 360, i'll give it a home (dark corner) til it's cracked...IF?
     
  13. Flash

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    for now it's easier to go with GC-compatible one (in a smaller custom case w/o DVD drive for example).
    But there's a chance that someone will be curious enough and have a free time to make something like ODE or find some exploit in wii mini.
    This thing can be useful to make a portable (maybe not GBA-like, but something similar to a laptop, Treamcast-like).

    Well, i'm not doing it - don't have enough hardware knowledge, equipment, spare hardware and most importantly - a lot of free time, but i know that some guys working on it already, one of them is french, but not related to anyone in french PSP scene. Of course they want to keep a low profile, because things got a bit too hot for geohot :) So it's usual "when it's done" thing.

    And i'm more interested in Neo-Geo flash cart ;)
     
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    You can't edit wii discs without patching the ios on the console, which you can't do without running homebred.

    Drive emulators already exist, but don't let you run home brew or even patched discs as content is signed.
     
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    Maybe when the details of the recently discovered massive USB exploit (aka BadUSB) are revealed, someone can reprogram an USB stick to hack the Wii Mini, in a similar way to what was done with the original PS3 USB Jailbreak! ;)
     
  16. LeHaM

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    I think something a long the lines of a spoofed update, seeing as Nintendo cut support for the Wii, maybe we could hack a wii update ind maybe even spoof the nintendo server to deliver the payload :)
     
  17. Flash

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    Update? What update? There's no wi-fi in Wii Mini.
     
  18. APE

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    You misread what he posted. The idea would be to create a new update for the Wii that would enable items such as the Homebrew Channel. Problem is that I'm 99.9999% sure that Nintendo didn't make that remotely easy and given that the Wii Mini has no Wi-Fi (as you pointed out) there is no easy way for Nintendo to update the Wii Mini. It's always possible that they could distribute an update through USB but what's more likely is that they have absolutely no plans to release another Wii update at all. I wouldn't be shocked if they didn't take out the ability for the Wii mini's OS to even check for updates or even update but more likely they disabled the function in the menu. I wouldn't put it past them to remove the relevant code entirely as a precautionary measure but given that the Wii is EOL wasting money on dev time wouldn't be in the cards given how much money they've been losing.

    The short version: get a regular Wii, they're cheap.
     
  19. LeHaM

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    Hmm I wonder if the wii mini supports the Ethernet adapter????
     
  20. XICO2KX

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    Nope, not really... :(
     
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