XEDK obsolete?

Discussion in 'Xbox 360 Development' started by Checksum, Oct 19, 2009.

  1. neull

    neull Guest

    lol, rednecks..
     
  2. null2

    null2 Guest

    More crap from you. I am right, you are wrong, accept the fact that I know more than you and move on.
     
  3. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    2nd warning.

    After a 3rd warning I ban you all.
     
  4. Krypton_VII

    Krypton_VII Peppy Member

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    I see your post Kevin, but one thing LEo said here, instigating arguments with me.

    I'm bitching? I've been reading this thread, and many others, and haven't been getting involved. Stop instigating arguments.. And stop being immature. I'm not bitching that this was released, I'm not mad that it was released, I'm not happy, I'm not sad about the fact that it was released. Obviously you feel the urge to get on my ass when I'm not even doing anything, just because I told you I don't want to talk to you anymore because of reasons like this.

    You know, this section was shut down before because of people making fights... So how about instead of fueling the fire, you just drop it, and stop caring, because to me, this Xbox stuff is just drama now, which is why I stay away. I haven't even done anything dev related in a while and am rarely using my console, and if I do, it's just to talk to people.

    But when people like you, who are mad because I don't want to talk to them anymore, just go and use me as your ammo, that's when this gets wrong, and I think the Microsoft section should be removed again, because it's only certain people here in combination with others that tear this all apart..
     
  5. lllsondowlll

    lllsondowlll Fiery Member

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    And we go round and round. All this is speculation and if people don't like the facts well then its their choice to disregaurd them. I don't know if its the ambien talking or me but really step outside for a while and meditate and come back in and ask yourselves. Why the hell does it even matter that we are arguing over stolen XeDK's or Retails or ect. None of us are in control of the events here and they will play out regaurdless of our pointless debates. Its all about people being right. Thats all the scene has turned into. Friend group disbands because of ego and notice of self worth and then when the inflated bump heads shits going to pop. So please every calm down. A great man once said. "Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olypics, even if you win... Well then your still retarded". Its not a big thing everything happens and if or when we can get retails running homebrew than so be it, if we can't we can't. From now on to defuse arguements just state your points as opinions this way if someone argues with an opinion then that will show everyone that persons pompas nature. In otherwords. Life is short. When the internet because a stupid place to live, then go visit your friends and the outside world. Negativity for the lose. Peace and Love. And now sleep.
     
  6. Krypton_VII

    Krypton_VII Peppy Member

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    Though I agree with some of your points, with the chilling out, and people bitching about sometimes the most stupid of things. But you also are pretty high up there on ambien I'm guessing, and I know you when you're high well enough, so that's probably why some of your ideas are pretty far fetched.

    ;P
    For instance, there are certain factors here that your high self isn't piecing together as to why these fights are going on, and I can see conflict on both sides, and understand why the fighting is occurring, but it doesn't change the fact of course, that it's been dragging on this much, and went from a little argument to flat-out disrespecting others.

    But come on? Making cheap shots and calling people out? Some people like the kid who called me out should know better than that, and some other people in this topic should know better than to continue any drama that was initially created just to disrespect others.

    My point is, I can see why fights are stemming, but they shouldn't be going on this long, and ending up in two parties attacking each other. Not here. I have my opinions on the subject, but I'm not going to post them because some people wouldn't agree with them, and would like to fight my opinion to the death, so I don't. That, and this topic wasn't designated for that.

    Though I'm not disrespecting the moderation, I think they should step it up, so when someone calls someone a specific name(flames essentially), like, "You are an asshole," there should be some warning issued to the user through PM about instigating arguments, or flaming. Keeping in mind that flaming doesn't so much count when someone says "You're acting like a .." and then relaxes their statement down so it's intent isn't to target another. And after a set amount of warnings per user, a punishment occurs based off the severity of their actions. I'm just saying instead of moderating topics so they are under control, it'd make more sense to more specifically moderate users and issue warnings in PM. I hope you guys know what I mean kinda..

    But then again, I bet this will just get disregarded.
     
  7. Dark Neo

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    Absolutely Dito Xenon. ;)

    I think it is a good start to run some programs or something else on a Retail. But, i must say.. i think, a Retail has never all functions like a real Dev Kit.

    I prefer have a real Dev Kit, and not a Retail with a half Functions of a Dev.

    It´s my thought...

    Have a nice day...;-)
     
  8. Checksum

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    Im just worried that if I pick up a Devkit for say 600-700 bucks that it might only be worth $150 after 3 months. It seems like they are already dropping in price as people anticipate this big "Hack" coming out.
    Thats what this post is about.
     
  9. null2

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    price remains the same, the hack isn't coming.
     
  10. Hawk

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    Kit prices may not drop, but people will not pay the ridiculous prices for them anymore because a hacked retail will be so much cheaper. Plus the first part of the hack is already out. The ability to reboot was never supposed to happen, people said it wasn't possible, and that nobody was working on it. That was the hard part. It will not be long before a hacked kernel is out.

    I don't think dev's will drop to $150 in 3 months, they will still have some advantages that 90% of the people will never care about or use. Wait a month or two before you decide to buy a dev, In the last 2 months the hacks for xbox that where never supposed to happen, just keep happening, and all the nay sayers just keep eating their words.

    So you can take it for what it's worth, go back and look at the info from when the 360's Xell was first released and what people said wouldn't happen, then look at what has already happened. It's just a matter of time the choice is yours rather you want to wait or not. You can easily find kits for around $500 already now. I know someone that bought one yesterday for that price, and thats not the first time, they've been selling like that from randoms for a while now.
     
  11. neull

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    I don't remember anyone ever saying that it wasn't possible, or that no one was working on it. I remember talking with another member who's registered on here when he started working on it during the summer of 2008.




    Not to get off topic, but what has "already happened" with xell? As far as I'm aware, it is just a linux desktop replacement. Nothing more, nothing less. Well, you can dump your NAND, but there are easier ways of going about that, aren't there?

    BTW, I hope I'm not coming across as anti-hacking, I've got the new hack on one of my retails, but from what I've been able to deduce, it isn't any better than king kong. Rebooting isn't that great either, the release doesn't really allow you to do anything except reboot in a higher kernel, and doesn't allow you to downgrade, so... what's the point, really?
     
  12. Esjay

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    Devs are actually still the same prices, people are probably dropping their prices because they need them sold, and they might even need the money by a certain timeframe. Another good reason for a dev would just be to collect them, like what Engineer was doing a while back.
     
  13. Kishan

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    I Agree with the fact that they WILL drop in price but what about all those users who have updated their kernel. that might be the last thread for the dev buisness.
     
  14. null2

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    wrong. a true retail hack isn't coming, so dev prices will remain the same.

     
  15. Kishan

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    MTW Have you really got your head stuffed that far up your own arse?

    you keep bullsh**ing about a hack NOT coming so kindly explain why a hack isnt coming?
     
  16. Paulo

    Paulo PoeticHalo

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    Umm anyone want to carry on with the rudeness and personal comments?

    I for one would strongly advise you to do so.
     
  17. Johnny

    Johnny Gran Turismo Freak and Site Supporter 2013,2015

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    This is the last time i'll ask to stop. Enough is ENOUGH!
     
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  18. Kishan

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    ok.... sorry i didnt see assemblers warning..... please lock this is going nowhere
     
  19. Hawk

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    This is moving right along, with xd mod it will allow for a bigger nand image to be flashed in case you wanted to run a NAND that was bigger then a retail 16mb. Who knows what the future holds, where there is a will there is a way.
     
  20. Esjay

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    Nice. Hopefully, we can get something like Avalaunch coming along soon *fingers crossed*. Does anyone know what the chances of being able to use a dev kernel on a retail 360, with something like the xd mod?
     
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