22 years on and the debate still rages on...

Not brainwashed, try not blind.

 

To be honest Sega peaks my curiosity quite often ,but my home is Nintendo for nostalgia reasons. As far as which is better that usually depends on the coder and his knowledge of the system, its ups and downs and builds a game accordingly.

 

Streets Of Rage 1-3 were the best Beat em ups of the day no doubt. The Closest the SNES/SFC got was Rushing Beat and they weren't even nearly as good.

and NO SNES game had anything that sounded as good as this even with it's superior (and Sony made) Sound chip



And.... the Mega Drive 2 kinda looked like a Super Famicom/PAL SNES

 

Who would have thought I'd learn so much about life and the streets from this game.
Why even to this day I walk around with a metal pipe and thwack people to collect chickens and apples from under barrels or in / under tables! :biggrin-new:

 

Sorry about the offtopic (slightly) GodofHardcore - but this has to be one of my favourite tunes from the game (maybe even the whole megadrive collection):



I heard this about 10 years later and remember thinking, wow! Especially when it drops at about 0:50 - really goes with the whole beating the crap out of 100 guys and gets you in the mood haha...

 

I like them both equally and feel that the 16-bit era was the golden age for gamers.

Speaking of Gunstar Heroes... http://gunstar.ocremix.org/

 

The Epic Street of Rage soundtrack is never off topic. It goes with everything like Guile's theme.

Blaze may also be the HOTTEST chick of the 16 bit era

 

I know what I'll be listening to in 15 minutes! Thanks! :loyal:

 

That again may only apply to you as coming of the younger generations of the 16-bit era. For our older guys here, the PCE was never off the table when talking 16-bit bitd. And it earned seriousness back then as it still does today.
IMHO it is the best system of the three. And I first was myself a blinded SFC follower bitd like many others, but got my eyes opened and mind cleared fast.
And the PCE did not even remotely see a release in my home country, yet it was one of the more beloved and imported system within the hc gamer scene because they knew what shit is really good.

 

Talking bout 16bit era my clear winner is the neo geo.

Sfc vs Md I had them both and I always preferred the Sega system.

It always felt better to play mega drive compared with the Super Nintendo, sure nintendo had better graphics most of the times, especially in the early days but that never really was of interest for me.

So it's Sega for me.

 

I'm 32. Remember here in the US it was the TG-16 and was just known as "That system Bonk is on" which changed pretty fast once Bonk got an NES Game. It's always been "Well that system is cool BUT......." anywhere But Japan. I did have a friend with a TG 16 though. I'm not discounting the system as anything other then great, it and the Neo Geo are all time great consoles. Just stating the reasons why they were left out of the debate. Which is simply because, Nobody in the west had them. How well it did in Japan is sort of Irrelevant to kids in the west at that point in time unless they were super hardcore like most of us here are.

It really wasn't until 2003 that I really learned to appreciate the PC Engine and want a Duo for myself which after I get the Retron 5 might be in my future after all.

 

yeah i had seen some PCE / TG16 games floating around in second hand stores over the years but no-one really knew or cared about the system it was sither the big N or the big SEGA until sony turned up.

still i do wish the TG16 / PCE was better marketed in the west at the time, as it is an excellent system with tones of great games.

 

Well actually there is ONE game that really came very close or comparable with Streets of Rage 2 & 3:

 

Which Kunio Kun game was that?

 

This one:

 

The PC-Engine and what it eventually became was pretty sweet. But realistically for a kid in the 90s the essential CD-ROM add-on (it is essential, many of the the best games are on CD) was just too expensive. Even before that, they didn't market it strongly to get a foothold over here. Sega fought hard to get into the market and everything went just right. In the early 90s, I'd never even heard of TurboGrafx 16.

I had a NES and naturally we moved on to the SNES. I had friends that got the Genesis but also others got the SNES. I didn't get my own Genesis till maybe 1999 at a used game store. But that's the great thing about now, now we have access to all the old games we didn't get a chance to play now. The PC-Engine is awesome. Lots of good stuff on there to play. But if I had to pick just one of the 3, I can't see myself not picking the SNES.

When I think of SNES I can think of many great games.

Super Metroid
Super Mario World, Super Mario All-Stars, Super Mario Kart
Star Fox
Mega Man X 1,2,3 & Mega Man VII
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy II&III
Battletoads in Battlemaniacs
Contra III
Sunset Riders
TMNT IV
Street Fighter II Turbo
Mortal Kombat II
Zombies Ate My Neighbors
Super Castlevania IV

Just to name a few. I could go on. For Genesis what can I think of right now.

Sonic The Hedgehog 1,2,3,&Knuckles
Rocket Knight Adventures
Quack Shot
Warsong
X-Men 1&2
TMNT Hyperstone Heist
Contra Hardcorps
Castlevania Bloodlines
Battletoads
Vectorman 1&2
Streets of Rage
Shinobi III

Towards the end I had more trouble thinking of games. Now PC-Engine which unlike SNES and Genesis I'll name imports ofcourse.

Lords of Thunder
Super Raiden
Castlevania Dracula X
Valis (the remake of Valis 1)
Gate of Thunder
Sapphire
Kyukyoku Tiger / Ultimate Tiger
Ninja Ryukenden / Ninja Gaiden
Splatterhouse
Neutopia 1&2
Afterburner

And I cheated on a few of those as they weren't on the top of my mind. All 3 systems have superb games. I guess I just feel SNES has more of them and good variety.

Now if you want to get technical you can debate how all the hardware is different and one system has one particular advantage over another and such. But that can actually get rather boring quickly. It's more fun to just talk about what games you felt were the best for each system, or your favorites I should say.

 

lol, that's not a real victory, that's a moral victory.

The Genesis "cool" was that type of cool you lust after when you're a child and you look at the teenagers and they seem so cool and you want to be a cool teenager like them. Add to that the 90s "extreme" style marketing that Sega pushed with the Genesis and Saturn and there you go.

But when you're an adult and you look back, being a teenager isn't really very cool at all. And that's how I think of the Genesis. It had great games and is truly one of the legends of gaming history. But I don't see how anyone with an unbiased perspective can look back and say that it was the better console and library of the two. Personally, I think it's laughable.

 

Ok then, let's play a game

Listen to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ6kwvfQJ2w or this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq8-NLrex54

Now, after you stop screaming for a sweet merciful death, listen to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba61YV9Wsw8, this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4lwVge373U, or if you're fancy, the Sega CD version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNlUC-fMIME

The Genesis and SNES had different sound chips, and each had different strengths. When well done, either system could churn out masterpieces (I have the NHL 95 theme on my ipod, and all the Sonic music on itunes). When done poorly, it sounds like the auditory massacre posted above.

Also, I have no idea why the NHL 96 intro was so silent, Madden 95 had the EA Sports bit said (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZQJ9998HR4), maybe it was size limitations.

 

Yeah there was a myth that MD couldn't do voices properly at all, when in fact it could do them perfectly well (some MD games have almost crystal clear voice samples in them). I guess this was perpetuated by the fact it was seemingly the norm to add in really low bitrate voices in order to save space on the cartridge though, meaning you ended up with voices that sounded like they were recorded by people with late stage throat cancer, talking into a pillow, under water in a hot tub with the bubbles turned up full.

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