99$ android 100% open console

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  1. 7Force

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    That's not exactly a selling point, since there are already a gazillion things on the market that can do that. Hell, even the Raspberry Pi can do that and it's actually a thing that exists.
     
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    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    yes, that's pretty much its most useful feature - although emulating 3D systems would be an issue, barring PSone classics (modified .apk files probably)
     
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    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    before the raspberry pi was released it didn't exist too...

    i posted abut the raspi here and went through the same comments as the ouya. and the raspberry guys didn't had over 5millions to kickstart
     
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    The main difference between the Raspberry Pi and the Ouya is that the former didn't have any loftier goals besides having a cheap Linux system that could be used in schools. The Ouya guys are trying to pretend like they're gonna REVOLUTIONIZE THE INDUSTRY!....by using a platform known for shitware and crappy games like Angry Birds and Fruit Ninja that are fun for about three minutes.
     
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    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    7force, well said lad. a revolution is something they're selling as an idea, I think they're just another wave of "after Jobs", trying to think like Apple's creator did. You have to have a better vision, an instinct for this kind of thing, it's not everyone's ability just because they wish for it. I foresee quite a few companies going down this "apple-like" ideals path and not many will succeed the way apple did.
     
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    I agree with those who are skeptical.

    I'm not an expert with this kind of stuff and I don't claim to be, but I really just don't see this device succeeding or being a game-changer like some are predicting. The only thing really attractive about it is the price. Everything it claims it can do, something that already exists can do it better. The controller looks like some crappy third party PS2 controller (with 360 analog stick placement) and looks a bit uncomfortable to hold. The game selection that this system is boasting (FFIII, Minecraft, etc) can already be found on various other platforms for cheap prices.
     
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    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    the revolution they talk about is that anyone can work and release on the machine since it'll be shipped with all the tools needed to code for it; and being 100% open you can run your own things on it freely.

    how could all misunderstand this?
     
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    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    ..that revolution has been already here for the past 30 years thanks to the PC. You can make and deploy your own software with much more powerful hardware etc. I don't see how this is a winning horse, please elaborate if you think it is a revolution. Tell me something that they're doing and hasn't been done "ever" before.
     
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    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    i never said that it is a revolution i just appreciate a console that allows you to do whatever you want with and provides tools for that too.
     
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    You realize that there's nothing special about the Ouya in that respect? You can already code whatever you want on any Android platform.
     
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    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    there's other android platforms that are plugged to a tv and with a proper control method and at 90$ price?
     
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    no, but most android phones will have a TV-out feature soon enough, so you'll have paid for it already while acquiring your (likely expensive) phone or tablet.
     
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    Proper control method yes, you can make Android games with controller support. Dunno why anyone'd bother making indie games for Android though when there's already a huge market for them on the PC, and if you wanna make Android games, selling Fartz Soundboard for $1 is probably much more profitable than making a real game for a console three people own.
     
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    I backed the OUYA on Kickstarter and I'm looking forward to the final product. Yes in essence everything the OUYA can and will do is already available on other platforms etc, but for $99,- ....come on you can't complain. It has lots of potential to become a successful niche machine, and perhaps eventually it will become mainstream too.

    Personally I backed this project because I really enjoy indie games (like canabalt, super crate box, tiny wings etc). It's highly likely that these kind of games will also appear on the OUYA :) And also with the OUYA being an open platform you can bet there will be loads of emulators available too, which is nice for your retro fix.
     
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    is that 99$ + free shipping?:) or do you find it 99$ in stores?:) and let's not forget about taxes, are they included in the price?:)
     
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    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    since 99$ thanks to sony are 99eruro i wouldn't worry too much :D

    you know what is the price of a wii here?
     
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    ^ This... couldn't have said it better ( and I also backed this project for the reasons mentioned above )

    I think for the price point and what it is it can not be beat... I think what will attract most of the attention to the device will be its open-ness which will lead to a nice machine running XBMC, emulators and probably a dual boot nix setup ( again this is where the device will probably *really* be targeted to )

    To people who say jailbreak a apple tv and use that.... not a fan of apple tv ( or apple products in general... and yes I have used them ) and I prefer android based systems... won't say that OMG APPLE PRODUCTS ARE HORRIBLE MOVE AWAY FROM THE DARK SIDE as each user has their own preference...

    As to the whole "It's a shitty android console that'll only bring things like angry birds to the tv".... if you really think that's all it's there for... please recheck some of the android applications/games. That joke is just about as old and tiring as hipsters with macs at starbucks.

    Unfortunantly I think this thread should be closed just because all that will come of this is a battling of opinions and thoughts that will lead to fights for the most part.
     
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    I think the $99 cost is optimistic, since the Tegra3 alone is apparently $15-25, and they're planned a custom case and a custom pad with trackpad which won't be cheap to manufacture.

    The thing is, the Ouya market will be tiny compared to the millions of people who own Android phones. Those people are far more likely to buy a crappy time-waster like Angry Birds. Would you really want to spend resources trying to develop for the small Ouya market, especially when you could be developing your indie game on PC with a much bigger potential user base?
     
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    I do see what you are saying and I will agree with you on that... however at the same time games ( and applications ) that are currently on the android market that wouldn't need tegra optimization could easily be released on ouya with minor modifications ( e.g. remap controls to ouya controller and remove touch ui overlay )... I do know that with that comes the whole "angry birds" thought part but there's actual quality releases out there that would easily make it over.
     
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    The hope they have is they can piggyback off the android phone market. I don't think that's necessarily going to happen but I can definitely see why pople would be hopeful.

    Will thi challenge the core vide game market, highly doubtful. I it a cool piece o hardware that might have one or to inquest title, possibly. Will it be a neat development platform for code monkeys and hackers, most definitely.

    The last reason is why I backed it. I'm not looking for them to change the world but I would love to have a nice form factor android box to tool round with for a bit.
     
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