ARGH!!! DAMN US PSP!!!

What are you talking about? It's called quality control - it certainly can be helped, and not only can but damn well should be. I'm not going to say much more, because I haven't seen this stuff with my own eyes, but if the dead pixel rate is anything like as high as people seem to be saying, it's a fucking disgrace. Eva bought 3 and got dead pixels on each - who else can you blame but Sony? IT'S THEIR MERCHANDISE. They are responsible.

Same would go for the DS if it had/has the same problems, before I hear some crap about fanboyism...

 

OK then... please tell me how your going to make LCD screens 100% without problems.... oh wait the dead pixels cant be helped can they..?

What do you expect... someone to sit there and look at every screen produced for dead pixels or anything?

That goes for all LCD screens made not just psp, ds and phones and tvs and pc screens...

I think the thing we can complain about is the policy that Sony or nintendo or who ever will take to when people complain about the dead pixels...

 

ds has some dead pixels, gba doesnt.... cant they fucking test the lcds at the damn assembly line or what ever? and return it to sharp if it doesnt work? oh, did i mention the 3rd psp had 3 dirt lines about 1cm by 3cm long? and a big ass finger print? and scratch on the metal logo on the back? thats just silly...

 

One good thing about the UK, that shit won't wash here, they legally have to replace it if there is even one dead pixel.

 

Again: it's called quality control. Dead pixels can be found on the manufacturing line - how do you account for the fact that practically no tft monitors ship with dead pixels, despite there being a high rate of failure in the manufacturing process? Yeah, all the ones with defects get detected and removed (in fact they get consigned as B-grade stock material, for use in less quality-critical applications). Bottom line, this stuff should be picked up well before the PSP/DS gets into my hands, and anything less is negligence on the part of the manufacturer.

 

Had my palm t3 replaced after it had a dead pixel in the middle of the screen.... stupid counter monkey at carphone warehouse was like errm i cant see anything wrong with it.. bla bla bla

Umm as far as i know ALOT of them ship with dead pixels... it just isnt complained about as much because its not brand new just out...

 

Also agree. The normal PS2 V9 and V10 are terrible. Not to mention the easy to die PSTwo. The PSTwo only works normally after a voltage fix.

I had so many crap products over these years, that i don't believe in quality control anymore. Car cd players that stop working, Sound systems that are crazy (constantly open and close cd tray, sometimes reads cds, other times they don't), ... It's a commom thing these days, unfortunately

Like i said, they are responsible. No doubts about that.

Yep, they should test it (if they don't). This would help reducing this problem.

By the way, sorry if i overreacted Evangelion-01. :smt083 I hope you can get a new one fully working.

 

During the summer last year my university's library got ~70 new PCs, all with 17" tft screens. I have yet to see a dead pixel. That's because the manufacturer tested them to make sure there weren't any - as Sony should have done to prevent there being the units eva is talking about.

 

my current highschool is brand new and they have probably about 300 computers with 17inch dell lcd monitors, and i havent seen any dead piixels on any of them... and as you know i love nintendo, but i also like the psp, i had a jap psp but guess what? had 6 dead pixels so sold it to some kid, i really enjoyed playing ridge racers and i like it, but hell, if i am paying 250bucks i atleast want something in perfect condition, and i am sure sony can take care of that by testing the screens, but no. they dont give a fuck.

 

We get half that every week in new at our place, and I have yet to see any dead pixels out of the 1600 odd we have on site. Dead PSU's and the odd line issue, but no pixel problems.

 

You dont know anything about how those LCD screens were sourced though... you dont know if the store they were purchased from did a pixel check on the screens... Some stores will charge you for a pixel check. That alone should say something about defective pixels. Also the fact you cant return many monitors unless they have over X amount of dead pixels. If they were oh so rare they wouldnt mind the odd one being returned for having a single dead pixel...

Not to even being talking about how long they have been making those 17" monitors and how they have had so long to make their manufacturing process perfect...

At the end of the day Sharp has been making these screens for a short amount of time. Complaining about dead pixels is just another way to try and get at sony, nintendo , who ever... you should be complaining about their policy upon finding them...!

 

You paid for tha psp knowing full well there were 6 dead pixels...

Having someone looking at each screen for however long will cost a huge amount in time and money... (is there any other way to tell if there are dead pixels on a screen?). Then you would all complain about it taking so long to get units and why its so expensive... bla bla

 

Contributing Factors.

I work under the name of a big electronic retailer (who's ruined the child company that I work for). I stopped by in between calls to get a look at the sexy little devils.
I really like the look and feel but the pixel problem is very real, over half of the PSPs sold were being exchanged because of screen defects.
Also, a coworker of mine purchased one and although his didn't have any dead pixels the latch on the UMD door stopped working after changing discs only five times. I'm not saying it was a little loose or that the slider button broke but it just wouldn't latch anymore. That was really saddening.
Even after all that I still want one, I know that by next year we'll see a Linux release for PSP and I bet there are already GPS antennas that can be hooked via USB. The unit itself is terribly cool but I too would like to see the quality issues ironed out.
As far as price goes I know that my employee price is 5% above cost and the PSP would cost me only $195 or so... I'm pretty confident it'll hit $199 in US markets very soon.
Just wanted to share my point of view.
~Krelian

 

Do PSPs have warranty stickers? I wonder if I can frankenstein my own working PSP

 

Anyone foud pictures of a USA release psp taken apart yet?

Just wondering as i wanted to see if they have changed the square button like they said they wouldnt...

 

The fact is, Sony puts their name on the product, thus claiming responsiblity. If the screens are defective, then it's Sony's fault for not checking them/being shitty.

It looks like a damn cool little device. Unfortunately, I think Sony really dropped the ball, and it may even fail due to lack of marketing, defects, and just plain assholeness ("we built the most beautiful thing in the world" "we're taking handheld gaming out of the ghetto").

 

It's quite funny listening to these dead pixel stories. Sony are being cheap fuckers for using Sanyo screens anyway. Nintendo use Sharp screens for the DS. For those who don't know Sharp make the best TFT screens in the world. Sony should have used better parts in their console but as we all know they are well known for cutting corners. This is why the dead pixel rate on PSP units is higher than the DS. It IS possible to manufacture TFT screens without dead pixels but that all depends upon how much you want to pay for the process of making them. Sanyo screens are not made to the highest standards there for have dead pixels. Same goes for the Sharp screens on the DS but at least they are made to a higher standard than the Sanyo screens.

Oh, and about the tails of all TFT devices having dead pixels. I find that bollocks. Either the western countries have much lower standards or get sold all the rejects from Japan or the stories that people spread are just that, stories ! 8 out of 10 people in Japan own a mobile phone. All my mates do and not one of us have EVER had a dead pixel on our phones. Same goes with those of us with PDA systems or TFT screens. My Mitsubishi TFT has one faulty pixel that shines blue instead of black but all other colours and shades are fine.

I'm no fan boy of Sony or Nintendo but you do, not MUST admit that Sony are cutting corners by using cheaper screens which they know will lower quality. They'd better be careful. You can only piss about so much before the punter will stop following you. Sega know this !

Yakumo

 

Oh hell they have changed from Sharp to Sanyo? Not even samsung?! Ouch my psp has a sharp screen.

Anyways as for other things, ive seen many LCD monitors with dead pixels... also my palm t3 had a dead pixel, ive seen a few nokia mobiles with dead pixels and my Sony ericsson P800 had a dead pixel... P900's are known to have them from time to time. Even sharps own phones in the uk have them...

i cant think of an use for a LCD screen that i havent seen a dead pixel on!

 

Well like I said in the above post. It looks like the western countries get the shite that Japan doesn't want. I've never seen a mobile phone with dead pixels here.

Yakumo

 

Pixel death.

No one I know has ever had a pixel die on their cell phone, I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just that I haven't seen it, that must really suck.
Actually the only thing I've ever owned that had anything like a dead pixel is my import GBA SP. It doesn't actually have a dead pixel but it has the smallest bright white dot in the bottom left corner, I believe it's a speck of dust on the inside of the screen. I can usually look past it but I do notice it from time to time.
~Krelian