debug xboxes...

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  1. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    I don't really like XBMC that much. I'm debating it. I do have it installed as a secondary dash. May make it my primary if I decide to ditch my "sleeper" look for the console. I'll see once I get my new HDD in and start building it.

    As for XDK, I'm thinking about it. Make a dedicated HDD and have the debug BIOS on a modchip or something. Do the classic 2 drive switch method or else figure out how to make the debug BIOS boot to a different location so I can have it on the same drive as my primary setup. Switch one way boots retail. Flip it over for full XDK including dash and Xbox neighborhood support. If that is possible then I will do it. My Xecuter 2.6 would be good for that.
     
  2. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    You can have other bios load a different dash. I know on my old modded box, one BIOS loads to UnleashX or XBMC (Cant remember now), then the debug boots to xshell. XBMC can be customized quite a bit anyway. I dont know if the Xbox Classic skin is still compatible, but I bet it could be easily modified to look even more stock. http://lifehacker.com/5198009/customize-xbmc-with-these-five-awesome-skins
     
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  3. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    Thanks borman. I'll look into both once I get near the completion point. Xecuter 5035 on the chip to boot to XBMC if it still supports the classic skin and XDK with some debug BIOS on the other side with IND-BIOS on the TSOP to UnleashX. Then I'll have 3 booting options. Looks like I'll be going beyond the stock look now. All I need left is a Halo edition casing with the debug kit lettering applied and I'd have my own bootleg debug kit. :p
     
  4. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    Just get a green case without any logos on it. I have a debug kit without the text. Or a standard black box will do, since there are black debug kits ;)
     
  5. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    Stock black casing it is then. :D

    Help to hide all the stuff I have going on and will have going on. Booting to UnleashX will sure throw people off since it looks really close to factory stock. Flip the switch, go to XBMC, and blow their minds even more. If that isn't enough I will then be able to flip the switch again and boot the XDK. Then some of the people I know will have headsplosions. :D

    I'm gonna have fun with this and the tri boot setup when done. Now I'll need to figure out where to hide the X2.6 switches to be easily reached but well hidden. May ditch it in favor of custom since I won't be needing the flash protect switch or LEDs on it.
     
  6. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    You could stick a small switch on the bottom of the front faceplate fairly easily. Or around back, but that is less convenient :p
     
  7. Ghost1945

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    I actually just quit my job this week and was looking for further employment :) I'm going to try the disc someone already mentioned but I may have to go the virtual xp route lol
     
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  8. Ghost1945

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    I will keep you posted. I'm trying to mod one of them with an x3 chip but I'm guessing I haven't had a compatible bios since it won't load. Original debug dash loads when chip is off. And no, it isn't my soldering skills lol.
     
  9. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    Wait why the heck are you putting a mod chip into a debug kit? That's pointless really.
     
  10. Ghost1945

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    I happen to like the x3 chip a lot. it has features that a standard hacked debug kit isn't going to have all by itself, so I think I might pair them up until I sell the kit

    it makes it easier for me to work on.
     
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  11. Ghost1945

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    Thanks a ton man, I burned the disc without any need of a dummy file, swapped the debug drive with my trusty Sammy and it worked like a champ! I don't know if I'm going to release the files. I'll take photos and videos but I think they belong on the kit they were developed with
     
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  12. Ghost1945

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    @borman

    debug kits come with installed pinheaders so it's more of a why not... really. lol
     
  13. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    So long as you get the files backed up for yourself, it's whatever hah. I always worry about items getting damaged or lost on the way to me, so even if you delete your backup after you sell it and confirm the buyer got it, it goes a long way.
     
  14. Ghost1945

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    it's better than shelling it out to everyone and anyone. it makes it less unique and interesting. I'm only debating on selling one, I'm definitely keeping the other. I will take vids and photos of what is on it but no one is going to get a release.
     
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    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    Do whatever makes sense for you :) Just remember that the content is very rarely unique (especially as is the case with Hail to the Chimp, as I know I've seen that one before), so it's one of those situations where you can either sit on it, or risk losing an investment, if that is how you see it. I tend to sit on things until it makes sense not to, much to the chagrin of some people, but I always appreciate a heads up when there are other copies floating around :) Debug kits themselves are easy to find, it's the content that makes them interesting, which I think I said something similar when I sent you a PM hah. Just take the proper precautions, have a backup plan, all that good stuff, as you never know when these things are going to bite the dust.
     
  16. Ghost1945

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    then why are you so keen on getting such files if there are copies around? or anyone else for that matter? why not just stick with the other copies? or why show any interest here on this thread if they aren't unique? lol

    I view these kits as history. The games were developed on them. That is where they belong.

    I know there have been a lot of views on this thread. I will take some photos as soon as my wife comes back with the camera.
     
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    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    And that's fine hah. I just give other people the same warnings as I am given when I get something thats been known to be passed around, so it doesn't bite anyone in the ass. It's a courtesy I enjoy, so I try to pass it back to others. I know I would rather know that "So-and-so has a copy of this as well, so whatever you do with it, be aware of it (ie. don't hold onto it as an investment that is suddenly going to be worth hundreds of dollars).

    I show interest because without the details, just having a name, it isn't unique, but it is still a part of the history of the development cycle. Im not begging for the files, and would have happily paid to have them, but at the end of the day, it just doesn't matter that much :p I'm interested in the preservation of gaming history, unique or not, and I want to make sure everyone has the tools needed to do so, whether that is helping out with getting the software backed up, or offering money if they don't feel comfortable doing it themselves.

    But if you're interested in the history of the development, I don't see how adding a modchip to a kit does anything to help it ;)
     
  18. Ghost1945

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    the chip isn't for the debug xbox lol. I understand your confusion now. I'm using it to fix a different xbox as I am currently out of motherboards.
     
  19. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    That makes much more sense hah. It wouldnt be the first time someone talked about modifying a debug kit though.
     
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  20. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    Hehe. Guilty as charged. I wanted to do that before I knew the retail 1.0 through 1.5 boards can be 128MB RAM modded. I was still pretty dumb about the Xbox back then. While I don't know everything about it I do know enough to not look stupid when discussing deep stuff like this one here.
     
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