Estpolis Denki II NTSC-JAP Prototype

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  1. trevormacro

    trevormacro Peppy Member

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    Hello everybody,

    I don't know what I can do now with the ROM.
    I need to think about it.
    I know only one people help me to fix it (JLukas).
    Other man (Sinrevi) help me with the game and music.
    I consider these 2 men.
     
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  2. Sinrevi

    Sinrevi Spirited Member

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    A teleporting code would not help with getting Lexis in your party.
    Uhh... did you use a code to cheat the Excerion in your game before? Maybe if you did, and you placed the Excerion somewhere on the worldmap, now the game crashes when Lexis joins, since there aren't supposed to be two Excerions on the worldmap?

    By the way, I'm female. So don't call me a man =P
    Yeah, I would like to go through the rom myself, but on the other side I'm already glad to see (and hear in the case of the music) a proto version in action. Since before this proto showed up all there was were just screenshots from magazines =P

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    This code enables Retry mode and Gift mode in the final version.
     
  3. trevormacro

    trevormacro Peppy Member

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    I put the excerion on the world map. how can i unput it?

    One day I saw a picture of your collection with your hand and nail polish. So sure you are a female SORRY :)
    It's because you are so inteligent ;)

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    With PAR code 70000008 I have this screen. what option i can choose?

    The second (middle) and third (right) options don't work !

    Only the first (left) option works!

    Screen just after i choose the 2 and 3!

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    Look the ship on the world map :( How can i delete it?

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  4. Sinrevi

    Sinrevi Spirited Member

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    But I know some guys who use nail polish too =P (Okay, but they use black nail polish, not bright colored ones)
    Well, I guess my name is also used for males, but I associate it with females =P (I only met one person with the same name as me who was a guy)

    So the Excerion might be the problem?
    I only see codes for getting the Excerion, none for getting rid of the Excerion.

    I also saw a bomb appear in your video right before the crash. Did you push a button to make it appear? Maybe the bomb crashes the game?

    If I understand correctly, you 're before the point where Lexis joins, but you have the Excerion somewhere out on the worldmap?
    try reloading a different savefile without Excerion and proceed through the game again. (And don't use A+B on the worldmap, since that makes the Excerion appear)



    To the other screenshot: Then it seems they made menu options for Retry and Gift mode, but they don't work yet in the proto (or are damaged).

    EDIT: I just made the Excerion appear in the final game, then went to get Lexis to join. The Excerion on the overworld got replaced with the one from the event in Treadool (Excerion without submarine or flying upgrade)
     
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  5. trevormacro

    trevormacro Peppy Member

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    So the excerion is not the problem?

    About the bomb it appear without push any buttons!
     
  6. Sinrevi

    Sinrevi Spirited Member

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    The final version doesn't crash when I do the same as you in the proto.
    But maybe it is still a problem in the proto?

    I also tried some things to get rid of the Excerion, but it ended up in either being transported to the underwater map with Excerion, or having the Excerion in a town or other location I tried teleporting to with the meaning of leaving the Excerion behind and getting it erased.
     
  7. N00ByBo0

    N00ByBo0 Rapidly Rising Member

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    Why did he bought up the Excerion anyways? I thought he FINALY did a playthrough without using debug now and if it wasn't possible at least use the regular "walk" debug.
     
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  8. Sinrevi

    Sinrevi Spirited Member

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    How about turning all cheats off before meeting Lexis at the port? Does it crash again there? (make it so there's no "V" before the "Apply Cheats" function)
     
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    trevormacro, thanks for all you have done. I thought we may never see the content of that jewel at all (or at least I thought it could easily take a bunch of years), you have exposed most of the differences and that is IMO far far better than just releasing useless corrupt rom images. I want to express my gratitude, I think the community couldn't have dreamed of a better person than you to handle this prototype once it got corrupted.
     
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  10. trevormacro

    trevormacro Peppy Member

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    Hi man,

    Thank you for your words.

    A little update of the other Lufia II prototype.
    I install 5 news sockets to put the 5 eproms on them.

    http://www.assemblergames.com/forum...istrals-NTSC-US-Prototype&p=615856#post615856

    What do you think? good idea?

    @Sinrevi:

    Hi,

    Do you know some forums to speak about Lufia II (perhaps with the game developers or japan real fan like you)?
    Some links please...

    Thanks in advance
     
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  11. Sinrevi

    Sinrevi Spirited Member

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    The game developers (I'm guessing you mean Neverland with that)? Wouldn't you need to speak Japanese or what do you want to ask them? Even if you were able to contact them there's no guarantee they'd just answer I think.

    By the way, can you check out the sign in the hidden village? For some reason the game says it's Nikoru when you enter the city, but if you enter a building it's suddenly called Koniru =P So I'm interested in what the welcome sign says.
     
  12. trevormacro

    trevormacro Peppy Member

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    You want the hidden village in the mountains? Koniru is what?

    I want to show them the prototype game. And try to explain me where is the real end of the game. And if all these bugs are real or corrupted !
     
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  13. N00ByBo0

    N00ByBo0 Rapidly Rising Member

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    You know that prototypes were suppose to bring back to the develpers after the testing? By showing them you are only causing possible trouble and they could even charge you for stuff and asking to destroy it or whatever.

    Asking about a prototype of 20 or so years ago just to ask if something is a bug or not is pretty stupid, sorry.
     
  14. Sinrevi

    Sinrevi Spirited Member

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    I mean this:
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    Anyway, the real owner of the proto would be the developer. (or possibly Taito, the publisher?)
     
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    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    the sign says nothing :p
     
  16. trevormacro

    trevormacro Peppy Member

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    @Sinrevi:

    When I am in front of the sign, It doesn't work.

    Here is the video:

    http://youtu.be/TPUgFEv2rBo

    With a PAR code the game continue just after the boat go... :)

    I am happy and you?

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  17. Sinrevi

    Sinrevi Spirited Member

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    Yeah, I didn't know whether or not you pushed a button when you were in front of that sign =P
    But now I know for sure.

    Most of the villagers seem to be talking about "skill". Maybe they're talking about the Skill slot on the equipment screen? (Skill Slot doesn't exist in the final game)
    One of the villagers was saying something about the Foomy Woods.

    Any progress with getting Lexis in your party?

    EDIT: Go to Leon, then try to leave the castle so you get the event about the stolen Ruby Angel.
     
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  18. trevormacro

    trevormacro Peppy Member

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    Go back to Jaffy in Clamento, then go back to Dankirk.
     
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    trevormacro Peppy Member

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    I really want to fix the enemies on the world map and castle etc...
    I can't see them now :( I don't have any fight :(
    But there are always enemies before Gordovan West Tower on the MAP.

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    When I finish to speak with the man where can I go?

    I am on the top of the Tower.

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    Just this bug. passed now...

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    nb. if you want any screenshots I can take them :)

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    And now I have the same bug as the boat. Reset Game ! :(
     
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