Without PS2 hardware, it would seem: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=23003 They finally got the PS2 software emulator half finished. :noooo:
I don't know. The software emulation could allow the PS3 to upscale PS2 games, which would be nice even if it was just to 480p. Compatibility will increase over time too. The beef I have is that they have the cheek to overcharge Europe compared to the US and Japan, AND strip features out of the hardware. Grrrr.
You should have given up by now on having the PS3 for running 3 generations of games. Just give in and keep a PS2 around. I still have my PSOne around. I'd rather play on the original than some half-assed backwards compatibility. Wii is the exception since Wii is GameCube. ;p
" It also embodies a new combination of hardware and software emulation which will enable PS3 to be compatible with a broad range of original PlayStation® (PS) titles and a limited range of PlayStation®2 (PS2) titles." Limited sounds bad.
Limited sounds even worse when you consider that the're not releasing the list till launch. When will Sony stop fucking Europe? I'm in the US, but at this point I just feel bad for you guys since I would be pissed like no other.
Atleast Europe gets a good Blu-Ray film (long before it's dvd release i might add). I am currious to wait for the final word on this. Sites are stating the EE/GS was removed but there is no proof to that in the claim. It states that some party of the hardware are emulated but does not elude to which ones. Also after the PSP, I worrie little over a sony ps2 emulator. The ps1 emulator for PSP is actualy really ***ing good. I'm wondering when the hell it will come out for the ps3 (since launch sony mention that eventualy you will be able to play ps1 downloads on the ps3 as well).
Cut the features in order to cut the price. So rather than paying more than the US and Japan for the same product, we'll be paying the same money for an inferior one. We just can't get a break, can we?
subbie: AFAIK in the US and JPN models they included the PS2 EE+GS (Single chip, like the slimline ps2) and the rest was done in software. Now we have Sony stating the Euro PS3 would be less backwards compatible than the US version: "The backwards compatibility is not going to be as good as the U.S. and Japan models." - David Reeves, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe and: " Software will take over some of the functionality that was originally taken care of by dedicated chips..." And since the only 'chips' present was the EE+GS combo that pretty much means it now *has* to be pure software emulation. Theres nothing else to cut. And I don't think the fact that the PSOne emu for PSP is so good has any baring on the possible quality of Sony's PS2 emulator for the PS3, and as much is actually hinted at by the press release. Note: "It also embodies a new combination of hardware and software emulation which will enable PS3 to be compatible with a broad range of original PlayStation® (PS) titles and a limited range of PlayStation®2 (PS2) titles." I assume the software PSOne emulation on the PS3 is based on the same codebase as the PSOne emulator for the PSP, which as you say is good, and Sony also says is good ('broad range'). Yet, in the same sentence of the press release Sony says PS2 support is *limited* in comparison which to me says, 'no where near as compatible % wise as the PSOne emu.'. Of course, time will tell but i'm not holding my breath.
What exactly is the fucking point? Its one thing if they got better resolutions, but they are pretty much paying more then any other part of the world for this crap.
Thank Goodnes, that I bought the old PS2 (the original version if we can call it that). Some time ago very cheap. And it works perfectly.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/23/nplaystation123.xml The news has gone past the blogger world. Sony will have to respond in someway with headlines like that hitting.
I still have to heavly disagree with you. If the EE/GS was removed, There would be no HW/SW mix for running ps2 games. It purely would just be emulation. There are still other parts in the ps3 that are there for the ps2. Again there is still no telling what really was removed. For all we know they could have gone with an EE only solution and emulate the GS insted of using the all in one chip. Nobody knows and for the time being, it's pure speculation as to what is actualy being emulated.
http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=59112 Looks like there is huge reasons for the swap now. ps2 gaming in 1080p. If this dev speaks the truth, (i'll check on monday at work) its posible sony did like i mention and reverted the EE/GS all in one for just a EE insted and the ps3 is emulating the GS.
My question is this: If they wanted to do 1080p resolution, why didn't they just do that in the first place in America and Japan? Granted, those who do not have a high definition TV will be left in the cold.
Lack of time. The ps3 is still not esentualy finished yet (in terms of what the firmware is supost to offer). It's faster to throw in a ps2 hw then is to accurately emulate it. Still since nobody knows what was removed in european ps3, I seriously think sony is just trying to pull out the GS and emulate it insted. Doing so yes gives poor compatibility early on but in the long run gives far more benifits. Atm there is question over the vality of the claim but as a psp dev, I can validate that comercial devs get beta firmwares before they're released.
