[Help] Windows 10 Woes and issue (still)

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Prime B350m-a

 

Doubleposting for a good reason
Got win7 installed (god bless disc drive). Installed chipset, installed, whatever else I needed to get things running. Played a match of league to see if it would happen and it did but was resolved far faster than win10, affecting it maybe for 2 seconds instead of 10, only affected the game's monitor (middle of 3) as opposed to all of them as well. No full reset for the display either.
I didn't setup logging but I did keep some monitors open in case it happens. In the red area is when it happened. Im mainly looking at the GPU usage spike and the core clock dip.
I'm going to keep trying some stuff as well and see if I can repair win10 (maybe).

 

I wouldn't consider this a solution... and I hope you won't. Something is still seriously wrong, somewhere.

What exactly have you (attempted to) RMA'ed so far? You mentioned ASUS, but I cannot tell if it was your GPU board or your mainboard that was RMA'ed. Have you tried getting in touch with the ASUS mainboard tech support folks regarding this matter?

 

That "something" is the problem. I cant tell where the issue is. The symptoms say software, but it's looking like its the mobo, but if its the mobo why is Linux okay (im sure theres a good reason as previously mentioned in thread)

I've RMA'd the GPU so far, they deemed it okay. I have not RMA'd the board as this is my only available system in working order (I mean I can change that but the work put in to get the damn thing out is more than it's rightfully worth)
I've already been considering just changing the mobo altogether since it's just been a pain in the ass, but the other options have some issues (mainly not enough sata ports)

I did some stuff with Win10 to see if it just magically fixed it. As of right now I have not had the issue show up but I'm not keeping my hopes up.

 

Symptoms say hardware to me. Most likely the gpu,followed by mobo or PSU.

 

Rule PSU out, I've used 2 different ones, both held same effects. 450W bronze (lol) and currently 550W gold.
GPU is (as im told by Asus) fine, but it's possible. No idea if mobo is under warranty still (amazon and all that).

After 5 hours (or something like that) I have not had the symptoms show after some tinkering with Win10. Still not holding my breath. A new issue has arisen where my mouse leaves the game window (normally locked in it til an alt+tab) which is a little irritating but not the worst. Not a big concern but hey.

 

This might be due to the debloat stuff you mentioned. It says on their page that it hasn't been tested with the Creators Update, and that future updates might cause issues. Is running that really necessary? Your computer is newer than mine, and my PC runs Windows 10 plenty fast without any of that. If you absolutely have to have that, then you may have to just deal with the OS being a glitchy, unusable mess. Is it really that surprising that modifying the OS in a non-standard way might cause problems?

Unrelated to that, what speed is your memory? That screenshot on the first page says 1463MHz, but that isn't a normal speed, and it seems like it should be higher than that.

 

To be fair 10 is fairly glitchy without debloat mods. I mean it's pretty random, one of my computers fails any major update a few times before it actually installs. The other 2 have no problems with updates, but have exhibited other small problems which come and go throughout updates. Stupid crap like the sound output settings taking minutes to show up. Not to mention the bane of my file exploring existence, Windows Explorer refreshing itself all the time, forcing the window to scroll back to the top randomly..love it when browsing through loads of files. I don't understand how that particular issue does not get fixed..

 

I was in the creators ring for quite some time but one build just refused to work after a few days. I'd avoid using those builds all together. However, actual public builds are fine.

 

Small update, still no crash yet. Still not holding my breath.

Not in the slightest, despite me having used windows vista for 5 or so years without a single issue even down to drivers, but that didn't stop me. It only makes me appreciate Vista Ultimate more

Not sure what the issue is with those readings honestly. It's 2 sets of dual channel DDR4 3000Mhz ram. It's clocked to 2933 right now (I have not tried going to 3000 but might sometime). Bios says 2933, Windows says 2933, Speccy doesnt, CPUZ doesnt

Had a good chuckle there.
Speaking of which, I'll mention an interesting observation in this regard (the difference in functionality of win10)
When I got in trouble for Dead Rising 4, the installation process required that you sideload the appx in an extracted format. You can take 10 identical systems, with all the same configurations, and only 5 will actually boot it. Why is this? I dont know. I never figured it out. My old system took it fine, my backup tower didnt like it, the people who had it other than me had spotty functionality too. There was no consistency what so ever and it was nearly impossible to figure out what the hell was happening

Again, I dont have that data anymore and dont want it back, but when I hear "works on my machine" kinds of things, I now think of how the same application and data didnt do shit on half the systems that it was on. Made no sense.

 

Did it install a kernel driver? If you install 1607 or later then you have stricter kernel driver signing checks. If you want to avoid those restrictions you need to install 1511 and then update. Supposedly there is a registry key that is under NDA that you can change, which is essentially what is the difference between a clean 1607 and an upgrade to 1607. Nobody seems to have bothered to leak it or find it.

I had to hassle Intel and Samsung to sign some of their drivers properly.

 

Interesting. That might actually be a the reason. At the time there was mention of cert files needed or something to that regard, which I didnt have (but the person who stole it to begin with did) so I was left wondering what to do with that. I dont know what history of Win10 the others ran but that very well could be the reason. Mine was 7 Upgraded to 10 Pro on launch day, theirs may not have been.

Anyway, this is getting off topic (in off topic).

I have yet to experience the problems as described before, so I'm *guessing* the upgrade I did with MS's dumb media creation tool did the job somehow. While It bugs me theres a new but very minor problem I am almost certain it will rear its head once again in the next few days

 

At long last, it finally happened once more. This time I remembered task manager has a GPU section with the latest updates on win10 and saw this
While playing I do have videos playing in the background as noise, which could explain the spike on decode when displays returned

Anyone have input as to what might be going on here (also that disk usage, possibly part of the issue?)


Edit: After thinking about this I wondered if using my last spare SSD to test a win7 upgrade may be worth trying, as my last system has 0 issues like this, and that was my method at the time. Maybe it will change?
Otherwise my mind is set onto a different mobo (which would be legit great to have another PCI-e x16 slot)

 

Another update, been a while and just mere moments ago it acted up again, but instead didn't recover as expected.
This time, I was left with the middle monitor totally stuck on black (with the task selection being the last thing it got), the win10 theme turned full black and aero disabled (broke), something was trying to restart, but I'm not overly sure what it was.
Had to do a full reboot to fix this. Pic below is the screenshot I got as it happened (edited out discord because I wanted to).

I'll be trying out a new motherboard, and be seeing if this issue still persists.

 

Noticed your AMD driver was a month behind, probably not the problem but still.

 

Hows yours treating you? The GPU that is.
I'll give more updates a whirl

I've decided to go for the gigabyte b350m-a board as it fits my form factor and has 6 sata slots (important). Hopefully my experience will be better than witht his Asus board

 

Mine is fine, but I game mostly on PS4 Pro and Xbox One X and don't tax this card out much, I originally bought it for ARK and PUBG which are both on Xbox now. Most issues I see with Windows 10 performance is usually storage related. I also notice your video card is in PCI bus 39?, is that like in the bottom slot of your tower?

 

It's the only PCI-e x16 slot on the board

 

Yikes, is that 15 pin VGA or 9pin serial? I'd rather another slot.

 

Thats VGA with DVI underneath it
Im also using my 2 DP ports and one of the HDMI ports for my displays (with 2 DP-DVI cables and 1 HDMI-DVI cable)