[Help] Windows 10 Woes and issue (still)

I remember my last ASUS board. I hated it, along with AMD.

Though the issues you're getting are unexcusable. Have you done a clean install of W10?

 

7 only, 10 at one point but *immediately* ran debloat scrips, to which same problems persisted on next reboot.
I will try vanilla win10 when the new board arrives. I havent run 7 in a while (I hate rebooting, but I have to sometimes) but the problem existed there as well, but to a much less severe degree

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Speaking of which how convenient that you hate AMD, only to see this player show up.

 

Asus P2B series for the win!

 

Alright new board in and bad news, it sure as hell is still happening.
Looks like I gotta suck it up

While I have this moment I will say, for OCing, it had 0 issues what so ever where my other board would fight me every step of the way so I'm very satisfied in this regard. I do not however like that this board only has 1 PS/2 port where the old one had 2 separate ones.

 

Graphics card. Just because Asus said its OK, doesn't mean it's OK.

Intermittent faults are a pain to diagnose, I do it for a living.

 

Then why would it happen on my 750ti as well, to a much lesser extent, when i know that card is 100% fine?

 

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.I finally won in PUBG!

I'd do a fresh install with none of your shit and attached just to troubleshoot. Fall 2017 creators update, install to a different single disk, run for a few days, what happens?

 

He wrote that it also happens on Windows 7... which is so strange. @_@

Are you using the same RAM sticks? What happens if you rotate them around? I don't know... can bad RAM cause this?

 

How do you know this? Have you tested in another pc?

The issue you are having is graphics card related. Drivers, hardware or something you have messed up in Windows.

You said you did a reinstall of 7, and if it were drivers lot more people would be complaining.


Bad ram is very unlikely, as pc wouldn't recover.

 

I'll give it a shot once I set aside time to do it. I've carried this installation over through multiple systems, likely not adding to anything good. It started on a laptop, moved to a desktop, then moved to another laptop, then to this desktop (amd/amd, intel/nvidia, intel/intel, amd/amd respectively). It's a huge pile of stuff that I cannot reasonably let go of

I can try changing my ram to be 2x4 (and swap them accordingly if maybe one is causing an issue to narrow it down?) It's all the same ram Im using. 2 sets of 2x4

I have not tried the gpu in my other system (i5) because It's just not setup and I need a spare hdd (i have plenty)
the issue is more having to use it instead, something I dont want to do.
I installed 7 on an SSD and it happened as well but much much less severe (and faster recovery). I have not loaded win7 while the new board is in as of yet so I still need to do that.

It happened once while OBS was open, causing it to crash OBS altogether. It wouldn't be so bad if i could just get footage of this to make it extra clear. I can sometimes force it to happen if I try loading Maya at the same time as any game is active. I'd get footage of this but Maya just doesnt want to open after installing the new mobo so I can try running multiple games at once to try to bring it out.
My input: its software causing the issue because of how ridiculous my system is (how I've kept it all over the years). Why this affects Win7? Maybe it was some other issue that I'm assuming is the same one? Not sure but I'll go back and try it.

Generally my frustration has come to the point where I'm not even mildly bothered by it anymore/ I want it gone, but undoing all that stuff on my system to get rid of it is not worth it.

 

Oh yeah, is your PSU really strong enough? I was wondering about whether 550W is sufficient. I'm using a 550W (I think) for a 650Ti.

But you're using a much stronger card, with quite a lot of disks?

 

I have dually 920W power supplies and only 3 disks with an RX480.

 

Holy &^%$ batman, all your hardware belong to us.


Edit:disk2vhd
I was in your same boat, but all I did was make a virtual machine of the old system. Did a new install on new hardware and fired up the VM.

 

I don't understand why you seem so resistant to first of all doing proper fault finding.

Put in your motherboard, ram, cpu, graphics card and one hdd (ideally a spare one and fresh install windows) and work from there. I did mention doing a fresh install right at the start.

You have said you have used 7 (no mention if this was a fresh install). You are convinced your gpu and PSU are fine, but don't want to seem to bother to prove anything.

Regarding power supplies, most people vastly over estimate how much power you actually need.

 

I've been trying anything I can (other than reinstalling windows) for about 6 months is why. Most of what has been suggested I've tried (most).
Windows 7 was a fresh installation straight from my old 7 ultimate disc (I swear I mentioned this was fresh). I also did a fresh win10 install which lasted merely a single reboot before the problem showed its head again. On win7 it took a little bit of time, showed up, but with less severe issues (or again, maybe it was a problem with something else)
My PSU is fine, I see no reason why this one and the old one for that matter would be causing this issue. Like one post in this thread said, the likelyhood of both being bad is really really low.
I have my doubts about the GPU but sending it in to ASUS again, only to have them tell me it's fine (again) and to pay to ship it out (again, since they dont cover it) isn't in my interest. The 750ti has the same behavior, albeit much faster at fixing the issue, neither of which are existent on my other system (spent a few hours setting it up and running it with a fresh install of win10 since the last post). This to me indicates hardware is fine, but that the software is not, which is the one thing I'm not changing.
Hell for all I know it might be one of the drives in my case itself causing issues (one is rather old, it occasionally gives me the "im dying" sounds).

 

I don't understand how the issue still being on this machine, but not on your other one. Even with a fresh install = software problem.

You have swapped the software - fresh installs of Windows 7 and 10. What you have not changed is the hardware...

What you describe points to hardware (its staying with the hardware, when the software has been completely reinstalled) The fault you are getting is video related (card or drivers), you have done a fresh install so it's not Windows.

If you have other systems, swap the video cards and see if fault moves with the card.

Your dying drive - unless it's the windows drive, it's not related. I did mention to install to a different drive to rule that out too.

 

If this is what you insist is the issue then I will bitch at Asus once more (and you know do your other suggestions).
While I wrap up my support email (jesus christ their support page is a joke when you hit "SEND"), I will ask this. Do you think it's possible the CPU in any way has some role here? As a reminder its a Ryzen 5 1600.

 

You have skipped the fault finding that will prove the matter from my post.

Swap the video cards, you want a known working card (not one that also is known to have issues) and put this one in a known working machine.

 

I swore I typed it but looks like I didn't. My bad.
Dropped it into my other tower. Had no issues. Even trying to force it out (I can load maya and it brings it out if im in a game as well) and nothing appeared wrong.
Dropped it back into this system and the problem is still persisting

 

Over how long a period?

Also, put a known working card into this machine with issues and see what happens.