How to keep the 360 forum civil?

As my bro Uberfry would say... "You go girl!".

Enough said ;D

Topic:
Simply set some rules and start issuing temp. bans. Stick to the facts in the topics. Or if it's private then take it to PM or keep quiet.

 

It's funny mtw called someone a retard. But I agree with you lovemhz temp, perminate bands ect will be the best. And pms would be a good idea if it would actually work. Most of the time when people start stuff they just post in the thread to say how much better they are then someone else. And it has nothing to do with the thread at all.

What about just requiring the trouble makers posts to have to be moderator approved? And I by no means am inferring that previous trouble makers be allowed back, but the current and new ones be placed under restrictions.

Hawk

 

That could work... Instead of a ban which makes them leave the site, make it a usergroup where all posts require moderator approval. Requires a bit more work on the moderator side, but looks like the best solution when combined with stricter moderation.

Maybe even keep a log of all the people in the group and after a certain period of time allow them to post unrestricted again.

 

just make them have restricted accounts

 

These children cannot be changed easily. To do that takes embarassment of their actions, and they won't feel this emotion because they're too big flexing and breathing into each other's noses.

In my experience (which isn't related to the 'scene' at all) is that they either need to be destroyed with an IRON FIST, or ignored. Unfortunately, they won't get ignored because there will always be more of them to pick hissy fights - a self-sustaining ecosystem of fail.


I think they only way something is going to get done is to just tighten it down with another mod or two, and start banning from that forum. If they want to take it up and prove themselves with a PM to a mod, they will have that chance. If they want to go into off-topic and say they're getting bullied by mods, they can just dissapear forever.

Also, I'd say we as an entire forum (not just the XBOX afficionados) should start poking around there, doing some community modding (silent, that is), and keep our eyes open for the normal bullshit. See someone acting like an idiot and personally attacking instead of sharing information or discussing? PM a mod or cick the little 'report post' button.

 

I think you should just limit the 360 section..
If its really caused that much, don't bother.

 

What do you mean by limit?


I wouldn't miss it myself, but it would be great to have a proper place for proper discussion to exist as I'm sure there aren't many (if any) unmolested resources out there for the subject.

 

Well it should really just be a place for discussion and help.
Threads and Posts are not made that fast that Moderators can't just read them..
So I think an approval system, or just put something in place that everyone sticks to topic.

 

maybe only have certain posters need to be approved?

 

Well , limit it somehow..

 

I know I don't post in that particular forum, but I do read it.

Unfortunately, I don't think there really is a way to regulate it. From what I've seen people have been told to stop arguing in a thread, and the arguing continues along unabated. I think people just need to use their brains. When you think an argument is about to errupt or you have to start using forceful language, then crl+a delete what you're typing, and take it to PMs. But the thing is, no one ever wants to take it to PMs.

Another thing. The people who do post in that forum are extremely knowledgeable (Regardless of what some might think). All you need to do is clean it up, lock it, and wait a few days. I also don't believe in the whole "only certain people can post" idea. It's redundant. If the people who post there all the time are the only ones allowed to post, then what's been accomplished? If the people there are smart enough to reverse engineer an Xbox and make it do all these crazy kooky things, then they should know how to behave.

And it shouldn't even have to come to mod approval. That's way too much on the mods, and things would move slowly. If there is an argument temp ban those involved, because they should no better then to start unnecessary arguments.

Again I don't post there. I don't know the story of everything. But it's common sense people.

 

I like the idea of having a post count limit before it even becomes visible. Any new members who have been invited here to share their knowledge or are aware of it and need to share something decent quickly could always just write a PM to a moderator stating their business in the forum with proof of what it is they know, before they are allowed access.

 

I actually like the idea of closing 360 forum down, let the "kids" go to xbox-scene for 360 shit, atleast that way they will actually learn something.. after all it's a place were they like to share info . All they seem to learn from the 360 forum on here is how to bitch and cry like babies.

 

For the time being, re-open the forum, just disable posting. people need the information that's documented there.

 

@Tyler

http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=82

 

I'm loving how the slightest mention of the 360 forum has started people off...

 

When it comes to the 360 forum, MTWomg is correct. I do care about civility.

I am also a huge proponent of sharing information, but I want the people doing so to do it with integrity and transparency.

If you're going to ask for help, be prepared to detail what it is you need help with.

If you're going to offer information, be prepared to explain what it is in honest terms.

Given the nature of the board there will always be topics that require certain people to refrain from posting on simply because they are under an obligation not to reveal certain bits. Unless you're hopping in to correct an error and then choosing not to provide further details because you're required not to, if you can't speak on a topic you should simply not post.

Which leads to the other issue in the forum, posters who think it is their job to act as the "Xbox Police." We already have board members who have gone on record as destroying hardware belonging to other board members simply because one threatened to post some information that the other didn't want posted, but we also have board members who have posted purposefully misleading information, presumably to "throw others off the track."

THAT is something that I have a massive problem with.

If you don't want to share information, fine. But once you start posting information that is purposefully misleading, expect someone on the boards to correct you.

Anyone who comes here to view the forums should have the expectation that the information presented is as correct as possible. We do not want to be the source of incorrect or misleading statements.

Following on with that is sourcing. If you discover something new and want to share it with the forum, then by all means do so. But don't try to lift public information either from here or another web site and then claim it as your own. Plagarism isn't tolerated in grade school and it shouldn't be tolerated anywhere on the boards.

As far as the moderation is concerned, Pikkon and myself only have the power to delete and edit posts. Neither of us can ban users from the forum or otherwise change their status.

I can state that as mods we have deleted posts from all sorts of users, some prominent, some not. I've never minded healthy debate, but will delete when posts cross the line into personal attack.

Personally I think that the best approach to take is to keep the forum open, with the option to edit posts being disallowed. Posters should own their own words and if there is no editing, people have to really think about what they are going to say before hitting that "Post" button.

If it needs further restrictions, then perhaps a 50 post barrier before you are allowed to post in the forum. Hopefully that will not be the case.

I would not like to see the board move to a "post approval" system if only because that could potentially change the legal status of the posts and remove some protections from ASSEMbler that is currently enjoys.

-hl718

 

One word... DITO :thumbsup::nod:

 

+2.. Put quite an effort in writing that up.

 

I agree. hl718 is 100% right.