I don't know how many Puro fans are here but...WOW

Discussion in 'Japan Forum: Living there or planning a visit.' started by GodofHardcore, Jun 13, 2009.

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  1. GodofHardcore

    GodofHardcore Paragon of the Forum *

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    I don't know what this means for NOAH but DAMN. He was one of the greats of Puro.
     
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  2. GaijinPunch

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    You realize wrestling is fake, right?
     
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    What an ignorant statement...

    Scripted maybe fake no

    anyways

    Sound "Fake" to you?

    I know one thing...in Japan Pro Wrestling isn't the circus side show it is in the states
     
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    Brandon Lee died during a fake shootout during The Crow, doesn't mean they were having a real live fight to the death (except for him...)
     
  5. GodofHardcore

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    the same but not quite....

    It gets to me how nobody gives respect to wrestlers because of the "Staged" nature of what they do.
     
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    GoH: we had a forum thread in the off topic area some months (years ?) ago where one of the stupid fake wrestlers had committed homicide/suicide shit festival. And if you ask me, then the only real thing they do is this. Their stunts are real, the rest is as fake as the moon is made out of green cheese. Pro Wrestling .. Pro Wrestling = bullshit ! UFC = the real deal, and some former pro wrestlers has been really gone at it in UFC. Which is real. But shit happens also in pro wrestling. And the guy is dead.
     
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    *rolls eyes*

    There's no talking sense into any of you so why bother trying to get you to respect these great ATHELETES
     
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    what ??? lol you call doped up men who are running around and messes around in a ring for athletes ? bwa ha ha ha , sorry you and every body else who thinks "pro wrestling" is an athletic sport. Must understand it is ONLY entertaining and nothing else. For fucks sake, I have never seen so many fake punches and what not in any kind of "martial art" other than "Pro *bullshit* Wrestling". All their moves are faked versions of either jujutsu or any other kinds of REAL martial art. Except perhaps their stunts, but other than that. Then it is you and so forth who needs to wake up. And get real
    about it. And to cover my own ass, I doubt that any sports now adays where you can enhance your performance with drugs are clean. But then again I am guilty of watching martial artists who probably have taken too many roids and what not before they went into the ring of a real , full contact sport. And it is not just UFC I am thinking off, I am also thinking of Pride and other martial arts in that style. Except K1, which I detest and loath a bit, because it is nothing more than kickboxing with Muay Thai moves . And the rules are a soft version of real Muay Thai which I saw back in the day (1990´s) from Thailand on a channel known as Screensport or something along those lines. So there is a big difference between real stuff, and "Pro Wrestling" which is bollocks.
     
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    *shakes head*

    ignorance...man Ignorance

    ALot of good friends of mine are wrestlers. there's more to it than what you're saying.
     
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    Honestly, if anyone but GoH posted this, there wouldnt be such a backlash. But to say that professional wrestlers aren't athletes is just stupid. Athleticism has nothing to do with what the outcome is, but rather what they do. Sure, there are plenty of people on steroids, but so are bodybuilders, baseball stars, football stars, and every other type of star. Wrestlers are told "Heres who is going to win, here is one or two spots to hit", then most of them make it up as they go along, putting on a live, non-rehearsed-to-hell show, that is new and unique every damn night, using their training to do so. So to say they aren't athletes is absolutely ridiculous.

    Then, factor in someone like Kurt Angle, who won a damn Olympic gold medal, to say he isnt an athlete just show's that you have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

    Athleticism has nothing to do with real or fake punches, and no one is claiming that they are beating the living hell out of the other people in a real fight.
     
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    Thank you
     
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    I gotta side with John, I used to think wrestling was b.s. too until I met a couple of people who explained it to me. Yes the fights aren't real like UFC is real, but the shit is still dangerous, still a chance for serious injury.

    Besides, UFC is freakin' boring. Fights last like 20 seconds and usually involve one meatheaded flook laying on the ground with another guy squirming around on top of him. Personally I think they ought to throw these guys in the octagon with a brown bear and a gorilla, you know, get some movement going on in there.

    They should electrify the fence too.
     
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    I've seen some good UFC fights but....really....how homoerotic is MMA?

    Now that I've cleared my head and all I'll tell all the naysayers this... Track down the 1999 documentry Beyond the Mat and THEN tell me Wrestling is fake.
     
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    Yes there would. Staged 'sports' that involve more than one party are not sports. There is no competition. The winner is predetermined generally based on popularity or to induce drama.
     
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    Gotta love the internet. the death of a pro wrestler turns into an argument about how its fake and staged. Show some respect people. someone who was semi-famous and obviously had people who looked up to him is DEAD. Who fucking cares if its rigged or not. everyone has their own opinion on it and nobody cares what the other person thinks. its useless

    but fuck UFC. I swear most of the fights are rigged now*is butt hurt over quite a few fights*
     
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    Ill give you that its not a typical sport, no one denies that either. Competition does exist, however, to put on a good show, upstage the other people. No different then any other sport within a team, only difference is the outcome is decided for the general TV audience. You cant take a shitty wrestler, write him a good ending, and automatically put on a good match. Doesn't change whether they are ATHLETES thoughl
     
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    I should show him respect b/c he was on TV? He was a douchebag for all I know. I'm not saying he was (chances are, he was a nice guy). But, I'm not bad mouthing him really... just his version of theater. I'm sure most country western singers are great drinking buddies, but their music is awful and uninspired, and I would have no problem telling it to any of them.

    Then it's just a glorified body building tournament. The kind where you pose and flex. If you're into that, cool. As someone that's somewhat interested in fitness and does something active 6 times a week, I've always found the "juiced to the eyeballs" look a misguided take on the term "fit".
     
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    no. cause he was a human being. i don't mean bow down and go "oh great misawa. Oh lawd, oh holy one, Jesus save the soul!" but a little respect for the dead never hurt anyone. Likeing wrestling or not.
     
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    Can any body read, that I know their stunts are real, they are fucking dangerous, and so forth and accidents does happen ? or am I just shouting out words ? real wrestling, is what I take my hat off for. Pro Wrestling has NOTHING to do with its name counterpart, wrestling is a floor based grappling art. Where "Pro Wrestling" is just a show. are we clear on that with all ? And no it has NOTHING to with GoH made the thread, I would have behaved (to some people) just as bonkers if I hadn't been been GoH who had made the thread. And being a former martial artist , then again I am NOT into the show wrestling at all. I know some fights are fixed, that is why I actually prefer the old UFCs , because they were not fixed. And the same goes to the other old MMA shows, such as pride and others. But homoerotic ? come on that was a low blow. heck there are more hyper masculinity in "Pro Wrestling" than there is in MMA.
     
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