iQue Player

Discussion in 'Rare and Obscure Gaming' started by subbie, Jan 7, 2008.

  1. Trenton_net

    Trenton_net AKA SUPERCOM32

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    So, any praises or buyers remorse on your JXD 301 purchase? From what I can tell, people say the emulation isn't perfect, but since its not upgradable by users, it isn't as compatable as say a PSP would be (But its much smaller - As you already can tell, about the size of a micro.)
     
  2. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    Well i'm mixed. If the unit finaly get's hacked so I can excute custom code with no issue then I will sing it's praises all day. The CPU is powerful enough that it's raw snes emulation was better then early emu for psp. Personaly I could probably get a few emus running better once I can run code (my plans is for neopop/ngpc emu port). Untill then I feel the hw is strong, the screen is nice and the size is great. Yet the emu are poor and the input needs improving.

    Input sucks but it's purely due to buttons and rubber pad, the pcb is in good shape. I tried to mod mine by stuffing paper under the buttons but I put too much paper so it's stuck (no free time to undo). In the futre I am going to look into swaping out the input for standard style d-pad and better buttons (maybe steal them from the gba).

    I've got some high res pictures I took while taking mine apart.

    --edit--
    Fyi, i'm still in love with my ique. Just wish i could do [at]home so I could dl more games. :(
     
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  3. Trenton_net

    Trenton_net AKA SUPERCOM32

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  4. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    JXD is quite powerful, Super small and light weight, great LCD and was dirt cheap (i think my gf paid around $60-70 for it).

    Second the main point is because there was hacking going on by the gp32 guys for homebrew on the JXD. I can't do any public homebrew on DS/PSP due to my job. JXD is kind of a whole different ball park.

    Also JXD just needs some proper tuning of it's emu. Nes runs well, gbc needs another port, snes runs TOOO fast (needs vsyncing), NeoGeo is solid, Genesis needs another emu ported. That already exceeds the device you posted.

    I've ported neopop NGPC emu twice and am very familiar with it's code base. I am hoping to pull off an easy port that should substain 60fps (never got it on psp, i got up to 53fps, I would need to rewrite a lot to get 60fps on psp).
     
  5. Trenton_net

    Trenton_net AKA SUPERCOM32

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    Intresting. I'm guessing the only headway for the JDX in terms of hacking would be a customized firmware?
     
  6. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    Maybe it depends. Mostly just a patch to the fw to allow custom software should be sufficent. The firmware it self is quite flexable but I dout jxd ever though people would want to code for their hw so they just never leave an opening.

    Blackfin (the cpu maker) actualy is quite flexable and provides tons of data and compilers for writing apps for their cpus.

    Suposetly one of the gp32 guys has got stuff runing with display and input but not sure to what extent (and if it can be self executed from os).
     
  7. KuKzz

    KuKzz Spirited Member

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    Umm, this was iQue thread, no ? :)
    Anyways I have iQue, with updated firmware too. Got it a few weeks ago from ebay seller from China. Fortunately for me he knew english, so he helped me to update main unit and get additional games.
    I got 4 games (payed him 10$ for each one, they're probably cost less in retail) - Wave Race, Starfox, Super Mario 64, Sin & Punishment. Each game uses a few blocks on memory card (30 for super mario, but 125 for S&P) - these 4 games used up all my memory card space (it has like 250 blocks total).
    When you run out of space on MC, you can upload games to your iQue from PC - games that you bough but dont have on your card (in my case, Dr. Mario and 2 demos) will show up in games list on iQue with a small pc icon, and you can replace games on your card from iQue site. I decided to get only 4 games that will fit on my card - as Im not sure what will happen to iQue site in a few years.
    You get only Dr. Mario 64 and 2-3 demos with your iQue. Dr.Mario is a full game, other demos are time limited - iirc you can play for 5-7 hours, then they will lock up and you'll have to buy full versions.

    Overall iQue is a good system, lightweigh portable N64 - so far I like it :)
    There are a few downsides too:
    1) It used composite video output, which looks horrible on my 32" LCD TV. If anybody knows how to make s-video/rgb cable for it, then please tell me :)
    2) It has N64-style analog stick, which will probably fail after a few years of use.
    3) Its made as a backup device - so each game is loaded into ram before play. This takes from 20-30 seconds for Super Mario to 2 minutes for Sin&Punishment.
    4) Games are in chinese. Not a major problem for action games though...but chinese voiceover is WEIRD :)
    Still, its a very nice machine which i will take with me for some Wave Race championships on vacations :)

    Unfortunately I dont have a scanner, so dont expect any scans.
    But this ebay seller should have more units, so if anybody needs updated iQue with games, I can give you his email.
     
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  8. negora

    negora Spirited Member

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    Please, dont't understand me wrongly, since I'm not trying to understimate this acquisition but trying to clarify this doubt. Is it such a rare item (the iQue, I mean)? Aren't they being sold on eBay these days even in brand new condition?
     
  9. DarthCloud

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    I think iQue is more on the obscure side ;)
     
  10. negora

    negora Spirited Member

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    DarthCloud: Although it's not a big rarity, being "obscure" is enough for me :p . So congrats, you've driven me to buy one of them, ha ha ha. I collect brand new items (more from SEGA than Nintendo, really) and I've not been able to let it pass :p .
     
  11. KuKzz

    KuKzz Spirited Member

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    Its not that rare - but its still a very interesting piece of gaming hardware.
     
  12. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    KuKzz,
    Can you contact him and see if he is willing to upgrade an exsisting iQue unit? While it would probably be far cheaper to just buy a new one updated, my gf would kill me if I brought home a new one. Plus in the near future when I do secretly get a new iQue, I want one that still is sealed (there is a sticker on the bottom).


    negora,
    While iQues are not super rare (you can find one for dirt cheap), they are still somewhat rare to people outside of china. I know there is sometimes 1 unit floating on ebay for new but there are not a whole lot of others. I know of only 1 online HK import shop that still stocks units from back when they launched (but for $100).

    In china they are probably easy to find at an old use game store but official iQue stores (From what i'm told) are starting to not sell them anymore. They are insted pushing iQue DS units and there is word nintendo is planning to bring iQue Wii in the comming years (not sure what they will do to get around piracy).
     
  13. Trenton_net

    Trenton_net AKA SUPERCOM32

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    As many people correctly point out, Ique units aren’t terribly rare at all. They are only ‘somewhat’ sought after outside of China since not a whole lot got exported (Since you require access to load games on the memory card, etc).

    Thats probably another reason they arn't very appealing to collect unless your really hardcore into those kinds of things, as you need that extra bit of work (or friends/family/connections) to get the software/firmware with your machine.
     
  14. ServiceGames

    ServiceGames Heretic Extraordinaire

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    KuKzz can you PM me with his email address please.

    Thanks

    -ServiceGames-
     
  15. Matthijscoman

    Matthijscoman Fiery Member

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    And can you PM it to me too please?

    Thanks in advance!
     
  16. DarthCloud

    DarthCloud Fiery Member

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    Did the power supply work with 120v 60hz subbie?

    Got mine today and it start and them shutdown, do you use another adapter for power supply?
     
  17. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    I use a link sys adapter since its 5v out and the same plug size.

    I would NOT use the iQue adapter since its 220V input only.
     
  18. DarthCloud

    DarthCloud Fiery Member

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    Did your linksys adapter output 2A?
     
  19. DarthCloud

    DarthCloud Fiery Member

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    Finaly got it working, i'm running it using an old ATX power supply. lol

    Will try to find something better on ebay.

    Btw for other people interrested in ique you need an 5VDC 2A power supply with a "k" connector (5.0mm ext. 2.1mm int.)

    I played about an hour with zelda i reach the goron village, so i think it's not a demo, will try the other to see if they are real game or demo.

    Btw my iQue have the old firmware also, so no iQue@home for me either :(

    Would be cool to find someone in china witch can update our card before iQue Station got reamoved from all store....


    Edit: I try all my game and It look like they are all complete games :D

    I got, Dr. Mario, Zelda: OOT, Mario 64, Waverace 64 and StarFox64

    It's funny to ear waverace and starfox with chinese voice, lol
     
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  20. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    my linksys adapter gives out 1.5 mA which seem to work.

    Also way to tell if you have demo is if there is a timer next to the game when listed in the main menu. If there is a timer then it's a demo (it keeps track of usage and cuts off when all time is used). It does keep this info over time so if you have 5m of mario64, if you play two times of 2m each, 4m are eaten up already. Kind of sucks :(
     
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