iQue Player

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  1. DarthCloud

    DarthCloud Fiery Member

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    Just got my power supply today....

    Pluged it direcly and the ique worked fine then I tryed my family package, ique booted and I choose dr mario and the ique crashed. Try to reboot but it allway shut down :S

    Damn I'm beginning to hate that system...

    EDIT: Get it to start some time but it show me an error message. I think I managed to corrupt the cartridge while trying to dump it...

    Did the system can start without a cartridge??
     
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  2. DarthCloud

    DarthCloud Fiery Member

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  3. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    Sys wont start with out a cart (it just powers off). I believe the Bios/Firmware is stored on the Game Cart (why a full unit is not required to upgrade).

    Did you get a sucessful dump of the cart yet?

    I'm still in talks to get the broken unit off my friend. I just gotta trade something for it.

    -- edit --

    If you give up on the system. I'll gladly buy your family pack off you.
    ^_^
     
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  4. DarthCloud

    DarthCloud Fiery Member

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    No I didn't managed to dump it with the tool I currently own.

    I'm thinking to build my own nand dumper in vhdl for a cpld, but tbh this will cost money and time and I don't have any of the two right now ;)

    I might try to buy another one in china and ask my middle man to keep the ique and send me only the cart, ique are really cheap but shipping from china is too high. All I want is one with a full zelda, online would be nice but I down really need that.
     
  5. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    That might not work dude. I personaly would try my Mem card out first to doing that. I think it's posible each iQue Cart has a uniq ID stored on a chip that makes it only work with it's iQue unit.

    if by chance thats not the case, i'll gladly pitch in some cash to take the main unit.
     
  6. DarthCloud

    DarthCloud Fiery Member

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    If you get your friend ique let me know if the cart can be swaped,

    I give up with iQue for now, will try to buy another one this spring and maybe make another try to dump the cart
     
  7. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    Will do!

    Again if you ever deside to get out of iQue for good, hit me up about getting your family pack!
     
  8. DarthCloud

    DarthCloud Fiery Member

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    lol, I don't think so, It's just that I'm a bit frustrated about ique related stuff right now;)

    So I take a break from that ;)

    But yeah If I ever sell my ique stuff I contact you first, but I doubt I will tbh ;)
     
  9. DarthCloud

    DarthCloud Fiery Member

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    I was looking at my bricked iQue today (can't do much than that with it tbh) I tough that I should try to use the controller with my n64 since it would be stupid and a waste of time for nintendo to have change the controller protocol.

    I tryed and it worked :D I think I'm the only one now to play 64DD with iQue controller ;)

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    So the pinout:

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    As you see the iQue output +5v on the controller connector but it's unused by the controller. So iQue games might still be compatible with rumble pak if nintendo didn't removed support in their software. With this +5v output they could have released an ique controller with build-in rumble support.

    If I had an working ique I would try to connect a standard n64 controller w/ rumble pak to the hub to see if rumble work. But I don't have one in working order right now ;)

    I will also look at the iQue controller later to find out if the controller use the very same chip as the standad n64 controller or if nintendo made a strip-down chip witch don't have expansion port I/O. If it the same chip I will try to make an iQue controller with integrated rumble and maybe controller pak too.

    Also about iQue system, I ordered another one witch have full version of dr mario, mario kart and paper mario. Also an official iQue usb cable is include in the kit. So I realy hope it will turn out to be an online ready machine.

    I give news back once I receive it!
     
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  10. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    Wicked dude.

    I kind of like the iQue controller a bit.

    Where you getting your new unit off and for how much?
     
  11. DarthCloud

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    I opened the controller yesterday and it turned out that ique controller are nothing more (or less) than n64 controller :D

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    So decided to integrate an controller pak to it since it will be usefull when playing third party games. Can't swap between many memory pak but since I alway get my memory pak corrupted for some reason now when I unconnect them (don't know if it's the memory paks pin that are too used or if my controllers connectors are too used...) I try to avoid swapping anyway with regular controller..

    Sorry the pic are not very nice :/

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  12. kammedo

    kammedo and the lost N64 Hardware Docs

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    Cool!! Keep up the work! ;)
     
  13. negora

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    I'm really sorry for going back to the question which I formulated here some time ago, but after telling the seller that was not a brand new item, he has asked me why I think that. I hope not to distort the thread... Apologizes in advance.

    I'm already very used to buy collection stuff (old items usually) and one learns that there're certain aspects which reveal when something has been used or, at least, very manipulated (in the meaning of having been taken in and out of the box very often).

    In my case, when I got the iQue, I detected these:

    1st: The polyethylene bags. Although they get crumpled when the console is put in the box by the manufacturer, they always preserve a smooth texture, even after years and years of being in stock: no holes, tears or wears... And these ones have all them.

    2nd: Sellotape. The strips look like if they had been attached and detattached several times. Sellotape turns like yellow after years, but don't get degradated in that way.

    3rd: Dust. It can penetrate into certain parts even when the box is closed, but not into elements which are into bags.

    4th: Wears in parts which are designed to be used by direct contact. In this case 2 on the controller.

    5th: Fingerprints. They're in the metal plate where the memory card is inserted.

    6th: No seal on the memory card lid.

    I would love to think that one of the theories of you both, Subbie and Dath, were true, but in my case, unfortunately, the first facts smell "awfull" in my opinion.

    PD: By the way, I only want to reproach him. I will keep the iQue, although it isn't new. It's such a typical case that I'm getting used to it... In fact I bet many sellers already know that you will realize about the condition of the product but won't return it because of the mess which that operation implies.
     
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  14. DarthCloud

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    If Dr Mario was a last minute addition them it's possible that the worker who updated the machine didn't take much attention to the plastic bag, even if that is true other batch of ique must have dr mario from factory, so i think its possible to get a sealed one
     
  15. negora

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    Darth: Well, it's not that bags have been treated badly or without care, but manipulated many many times, not only one. It's difficult to explain just with words, but when you crumple a thin layer of polyethylene, because of its behaviour to forces, it acquires a texture of "mosaic" which persists forever, although you do your best to smooth it. The more times you take bags in and out of the box, the more crumples will be caused.

    Because of that reason, when I see any sale offered as brand new, but with bags which looks like that, I'm sure that's "only" a well conservated stuff. Sellers think that they can cheat everyone but paying much attention to certain details you can avoid that.
     
  16. DarthCloud

    DarthCloud Fiery Member

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    Ok I understand now .
     
  17. negora

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    Darth: I know this sounds crazy or excesive, he he he :p . But since I collect brand new SEGA consoles, after years of being cheated, I learnt that ;) .
     
  18. subbie

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    Truthfuly the best way to tell is if the Demo were ever played.

    If they were then your unit was used. If they were not then I find it hard to buy into the system actualy being used.

    There is no telling really how they were handled. With the guy on ebay (who i think you got it from) selling many units multiple times it's posible he bought a bunch of stock that a store ditched for cheap and there is no telling if maybe you got a unit that was open use as a show item (if you check the ique sites you will see some stores had units out of their box but in a locked show case for show).

    Anyways still it sucks to hear this. :(
     
  19. moribund112

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    sorry to bump such an old thread, but I figure it's iQue related so I might be able to help out.

    I'll be going back to China next week (I live there, actually) and I'll probably be picking up another iQue player as well as a few games, like Animal Forest, Zelda, Mario 64, etc.

    Several department stores in Kunming sell the item, I know for a fact that two of the stores still operate the game download stations where you can get the game flashed onto your system card after buying the ticket for the game.

    If I can help in any way on attempting to dump the contents of the memory card, let me know! I'm not a techie per se, but I'm fairly quick and learn easily.
     
  20. alxbly

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    I can confirm that Dr Mario is bundled in sealed iQue Players. I got my iQue Player about a year and a half ago. It was sealed and has the full version of Dr Mario inside.

    Seal intact:

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    Then, when opened, you can see the full version of Dr Mario inside:

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