Markets open in 5 mins. Waiting for the bad news.

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  1. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    Yes, the markets open in five... I expect at least a 5% decline
     
  2. graciano1337

    graciano1337 Milk Bar

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    I see trees of green........ red roses too
    I see em bloom..... for me and for you
    And I think to myself.... what a wonderful world.

    I see skies of blue..... clouds of white
    Bright blessed days....dark sacred nights
    And I think to myself .....what a wonderful world.
     
  3. andoba

    andoba Site Supporter 2014

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    Have fun living next to a tree because being arruinado.
     
  4. madhatter256

    madhatter256 Illustrious Member

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    The sky is always falling. WAMU just got picked up.
     
  5. jp.

    jp. Be Attitude For Gains

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    Went up. An alright amount too.

    This bailout is a horrible idea though. I hope that doesn't go through, or the value of the USD is going to be nonexistent.
     
  6. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    Funny how american markets are up, and everyone else is down.

    Maybe because americans seem to be firmly in the "head in the ass"
    category right now.

    I don't think people realize it's going to be bad until their 401k gets a hit,
    which should be soon.
     
  7. Hawanja

    Hawanja Ancient Deadly Ninja Baby

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    Amen to that, especially since throwing all that damn money at the problem would do pretty much nothing.
     
  8. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    Face it... the end of the world is nowhere near. And since when have the markets followed the rules? People make millions off of them *not* following the rules.
     
  9. madhatter256

    madhatter256 Illustrious Member

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    They are now calling that bail out as an 'investment'.
     
  10. XxHennersXx

    XxHennersXx I post here on the toilet sometimes.

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    PhreQuencYViii Champion of the Forum

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    Money is so fucking worthless.
     
  12. chaoticdaos

    chaoticdaos Considering imagining what cannot exist

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    Will leaving the country help... me?
    Cuz i'll see you bastards later, I don't want be in a great depression.
    I grew up on welfare, I will not work at slightly above minimum wage forever.

    Assembler: Has all this BS been messing with your business?
     
  13. jp.

    jp. Be Attitude For Gains

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    There is hope yet!!! Congress voted down the bailout.


    If they can keep that nonsense from happening then hopefully the market should readjust over time. The only reason this is happening is because a bunch of banks were fucking moronic.
     
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    Sonikku Gutsy Member

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    Hope? The Dow dropped 777 points (In $, 1.2 *trillion*), more of a drop than after freaking 9/11. I think it's about to turn into a turd sandwich and we all get to take a bite.

    http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/29/news/economy/bailout/index.htm?cnn=yes

    And it looks to have jumped the pond:

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/09/29/asia.stocks.ap/index.html?eref=rss_world
     
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  15. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    That's what it does anyway. Just has more/less work to do.
     
  16. madhatter256

    madhatter256 Illustrious Member

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    Its capitalism. I'm glad that bailout didn't pass because I do not want to pay for some wall street guy's greed and to pay for someone's home that they can't afford in the first place.

    It's called capitalism. The fuel and consumer of greed.
     
  17. dj898

    dj898 Site Supporter 2015

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    if it's your greed that brought the chaos then shouldn't expect the ordinary folks to pick up the tab and paid for your golden watch when you decided to jump the sinking ships...

    Seriously I'd be surprised if it did passed.
    It has no provision for ordinary people but the selected few rich gits at the Wall Street... Cumon they should sell their house, cars, boat, wives, organs to pay for the melt-down~ - -+
     
  18. jp.

    jp. Be Attitude For Gains

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    This is the problem with most. Folks can't see past today, or tomorrow, or next week.

    Yes, we will have a rough year. None of us who knew the problems with the bailout were thinking that once they said "No" the stock markets would jump back up.

    What we DID know, was that if the bailout passed inflation would go through the roof and, while it would have delayed the nastiness for A LITTLE WHILE, in about 3-4 months (give or take a few months) the value of the dollar would have ceased to exist and we would have been square in the middle of Great Depression 2: Electric Boogaloo. Only this time without a World War 2 to bail us out of it (and WWIII certainly wouldn't. As Einstein said, "I do not know with what happens World War 3 will be fought, but I do know that World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones.")

    Also, this mess happened because banks were gambling with peoples mortgages. Literally. The banks that are dying now are the ones that had a policy any schmuck off the street could buy that was basically them "betting" against someone's mortgage. And so, if the mortgage defaulted, then the bank would pay that person some large sum of money.

    Oil prices shot up. The economy hit a rough spot. A lot of people that were really living well beyond their means got smacked in the face with reality, the banks' little gamble shot them in the head.

    The only people this bailout helps are the banks that were running that scam. The banks that didn't are fine. Once banks are done dying and the smoke clears, THEN the market will be able to heal. Until then, yes, it will be a bumpy ride, but its not a ride where we need to cling to the overweight fat cats that have been doing some shady shit in the banking world.
     
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  19. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    Looks like I was right about the 5%

    This is good, correction is needed.

    Remember the stock market was originally about buying stock "pieces" of
    a company you liked and getting part of the profits.

    Only since the 60's have stocks become about inflated values and
    not the actual profits.

    This would be like trading a chicken for a car because
    it's a just a chicken, but the implied "value" drives up the price.

    A good company might make you $5.00 a share, each year.
    That's it. The share is $125... hope you have a long time to
    break even on dividends.

    The markets are purely about selling possibilities. Like futures.
    You bet for or against price rises. All it is is gambling.

    Some big investors don't buy stocks anymore since the 60's.
    They buy into the company at the door, like warren buffet.

    I use the markets to judge timings for my business.
    I don't think you'll get very rich unless you're a trader yourself.

    Just remember, when you buy so called investments or mutual funds, your
    money works for the investors before it works for you.

    Best way to get rich is to have a business. Combine sales with the value of your building (real estate). Sell your businesses off as oftern as possible
    and start new ones. Sell shares in your businesses.

    Bill gates isn't rich because he made a lot of money in salary. He's rich because people bought his stocks, and it went up in value. Going purely by
    salary he's made nota whole lot of money.

    You don't get rich working for the man. You need to become
    "the man" and sell stocks in your business, or sell the business.
    Then you get rich off other people's greed, of delusions of getting rich
    by handing people money to invest for them. This is like handing the only life preserver to your personal assistant. When you go to use it, he's long gone and you're going down with the ship.
     
  20. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    Just 4 days late. Hope you didn't bail and buy back in that 4 days.
     
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