New Everdrive on the horizon

That's defeating the purpose. This cart is intended to spur Famicom usage.

 

Cheers Tricky, any ideas where i might find one of these 60-72pin converters?

 

Maybe, but not everyone has a Famicom or is wanting to buy a new console when they could get a $20 adapter instead

Only online shop I've found selling them is http://ramfactory.com/products.php?FAMICOM-NES-ADAPTOR for $20.15 + shipping.

 

Is that a safe site to use? Do they accept PayPal?

 

Yes, it's safe to use, they're reputable, I don't know if they accept PayPal.

Alternatively, I see you're in the UK, http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Retro-Game-Base are going to be stocking adapters soon. They plan to sell them for £40 each though, a fair bit more expensive than from ramfactory.

Otherwise, you could probably just post a WTB, you'll likely find someone selling one.

 

just placed my order now didnt realise it was out already. It says backordered any idea when stock will be back avaliable?

 

No it isn't. The reason it's Famicom only right now is because one had to be first and where KRIKzz is from the systems are Famicom Clones and he chose to do that version first. There is no great reason to buy a Famicom in relation to this cartridge. You can use it on a NES just fine. It would be a huge waste for people to buy Famicom's *just* to use this cartridge. If you get a Famicom you should actually collect real Famicom games too. Otherwise you should just use whatever NES/Famicom system is available in your area.

And actually, other than the expensive to import AV Famicom, the Famicom is worse than the NES with only RF output on channels that don't work on many tuners here. Sure you can get some AV mod with varying quality. But then you have the fixed/non detachable controllers and all that. Now they AV Famicom, it's hardly different than a regular NES other than a 60 pin slot. Which doesn't matter if you are just going to leave one cart plugged in all the time.

 

AV famicom is the best NES/famicom version in my opinion. it is better than first generation NES because it is top-loader (and takes much much less space) and better than second generation NES because it has native AV output compatible with SNES,N64 and gamecube cables. i didn't do exact comparison but it is also said to have better composite quality than stock NES. there are also a few extras like extra sound channels and lack of lock-out chip.

though the price is a bit high, it is about 100$ loose.

 

And that's not including an AC adapter.
I'm still trying to figure out which one I should use here in Europe?

 

if you got a sega mega drive charger (which can be found dirt cheap in europe) you can rewire it if you got 2.1 mm socket. remember center pin must be negative. polarity is important in famicom unlike NES.

i was using a sega mega drive charger until it exploded when i left it plugged to my power output. AV famicom was off though.

after that, i got a generic charger with multiple plugs for NES,SNES etc. famicom runs perfectly fine with 9v and 1A. again don't forget polarity.

this page will tell you more.

http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=6933.0

 

So it is okay to use a model 1 sega genesis/mega drive power supply on an av famicom and super famicom? Reason I ask is I recently moved and don't know how good the wiring is in my current place(old house used brick in power surge strip seemed fine). Could get step down converter but a bit pricey. I have a model 1 sega genesis power adapter and would prefer to save money if possible.

 

i don't have a super famicom so i can't say anything about it.

av famicom works fine via sega mega drive power supply. of course you have to cut the plug, rewire a 2.1 mm socket with center pin negative.

 

The fact that it's a top loader is irrelevant if you are just going to have the same Flash Cart in the system all the time. You have a point that it takes up less space. The composite video quality on the NES is excellent and the AV Famicom is no better or worse. The NES supports sound expansion (extra sound channels) if you just install a single resistor. The lock-out chip is not a problem if your cartridges are clean. If you are having problems with the lockout chip then you likely need to clean your cartridges anyway. The NES is also alot cheaper.

The AV Famicom is cool and a nice system to own, but if your own use is to use the Famicom EverDrive with it then you're wasting money on that system. Unless getting an AV Famicom is cheaper than a NTSC NES system, which depending on where you live that could be true.

 

Doesn't the A/V Famicom have better RGB when using the PC10 PPU?

 

i won't use it only for famicom everdrive, i have original games and some famous famicom clone casettes which won't work on everdrive.

the composite output might be equivalent to NES (though i read in many places, av famicom has less jailbars). even if that is the case, you can use official nintendo cables on av famicom which are well shielded. it is harder to find cheap and well-shielded RCA cables for NES (at least in where i live)

of course it depends if it is worth the price. for me it is. as i can't do modding myself, i will have to pay someone for modding NES for 60 hz (all NES i can find here are 50 hz) and extra audio channel, plus i will buy two dog-bone controllers (they are great). pay for those and two-way shipping, i am pretty sure i will reach the av famicom's cost.

 

This will never end in our lifetime. Some people advocate either for or against the front loader, and that's the way it is.

 

That's silly because if you're using a PC10 PPU, the host system doesn't really matter because the PPU generates the signal.

It's good that you have actual Famicom carts. And as I said, if regular NTSC NES units are unavailable at a reason cost in your area, it makes sense to import an AV Famicom when it is the same cost, but for those in the US and Canada and possibly other regions it does not make good sense to import an AV Famicom just to use with the flash cart. An adapter is much cheaper if you can't wait for the NES version.

 

I was just going on some info I got from a NES and Famicom site.

Apparently they were wrong then...

 

The AV Fami is easier to mod though since it already has the same multiout as the SNES/N64/GameCube; you don't need to add a DIN jack or anything else like you would with any other system.

 

I just think the PAL/US NES just looks better than the AV Famicom, i mean come on what were they thinking when the designed that thing!?. Looks like they split the design duties up between 3 people and said....

"Bob you design the left hand side, Paul you design the right, and ill design the colour scheme and buttons...oh and your not allow to see what each other is doing"

The whole cartridge loading process of the NES was such a novel idea back in the 80's with the VHS type loading of the games just awesome plus the pads are a loads better also. I will concede that the Famicom carts are much cooler than the nes carts though!

I think ill be getting a French NES, as these used Scart plugs