New Everdrive on the horizon

Discussion in 'Everdrive General' started by Teancum, Sep 24, 2012.

  1. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    Someone else doing this on YouTube then. He last updated 4 months ago on the Genesis coding part of it.
     
  2. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

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    Sadly, the system on a chip clones are often more accurate that emulation approaches. Even emulation via FPGA. The problem is the quality of cloning of certain parts. With Genesis it's the terrible audio circuitry which could be improved. With NES it's things like the switched duty cycles which again could be fixed. The clones contain almost exact copies of the ICs in the original hardware. But how it ends up implemented is often the problem.

    The NES clones often are cited that they will not work with the MMC-5 mapper. Actually they all likely would, but pirates wired up the cartridge port signals to the connector wrong. I'm not sure why the switched duty cycle (sound wonky issue) exists and is in so many different clone systems. Back to Genesis, they could improve the audio circuitry so that sound levels are properly balanced and mixed as well as improve the video output quality and have a decent clone. But for whatever reason they haven't bothered. Part of that is because people will buy the crappy clones and not notice and they can keep on selling the same crappy clones.
     
  3. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    ^ word
     
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    derekb Well Known Member

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    I'd probably switch to clones if they upped their quality and provided built in rgb/component out solutions, or even just higher output quality than original systems
     
  5. butfluffy

    butfluffy Robust Member

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    tbh i would rather stick with the original consoles. they have the classic look and perform the way they should. i even try and stick with the model 1 versions aswell. front loading nes and model 1 megadrive and master system are the first images that come into my head when i think of those consoles.
     
  6. keropi

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    this was posted on twitter by KRIKzz , titled "Weird dev tool :) "

    [​IMG]

    :triumphant:
     
  7. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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  8. billcosbymon

    billcosbymon Guru Meditation Error

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    Maybe I'll get some more use out of my Famicom twin now :).
     
  9. seanami

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    Glad to see Krikzz doing this. Guy is great even when I had a problem with my order, he helped and fixed it immediately.
     
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    Great! I´m waiting for this cart.:encouragement:
     
  11. Frerix

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    Keep going Krikzz! I was about to order a NES PowerPak. I'm not going to do that anymore.
    I'll wait for this. Screw the NES PP :p
     
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    Awesome can't wait to use this with my av famicom :D
     
  13. Tricky

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    Update on Krikzz's twitter today

    "VRC6 with sound support already implemented!"
     
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  14. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    I wonder if the Famicom Everdrive will work on a Super Joy 3 Famiclone? I have the model with the slot in it. Came as a freebie in an auction for a model 3 Sega Genesis. Thought about putting the board in an old school NES controller and plastic welding the cart slot to the bottom of controller.

    EDIT: I just looked closer in the picture above to realize the Everdrive there is the current WIP... Famicom Everdrive? Famidrive?? I no know good name for it...
    The blue edge connector slot looks just like the one in my Famiclone minus mine being black. Thew that out there for whatever it's worth to ya...
     
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  15. dutch

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    I wonder why he doesn't keep his faithfull followers informed here!
     
  16. BlockABoots

    BlockABoots Gutsy Member

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    this is great news...love my NES when i was 8-11 years of age.

    Whats with all the hate for the PAL/US front loading NES's....i though it was cool at the time reminded me of a VHS tape deck loader!?

    Also is it possible to RGB mod an NES??

    Regarding the 2 versions (Famicom and NES) could Krikzz just use the same PCB for both and just have the PCB so it ft at the bottom of the NES cart and not bother about making a 'full size' pcb like normal NES games? Or are then connectors on the PCB different from the famicom to the NES?
     
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  17. Tricky

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    The "zero insertion" method in front loaders was/is notorious for deteriorating the contacts inside the console, making it lose its ability to read carts.
    Yes, with a Playchoice 10 PPU, which are rare and as such not cheap. It's also imperfect, with some palette issues in some games. There's someone working on a replacement PPU which would be configurable for different games that should also be usable in RGB modding an NES.
    The Famicom is 60 pins, the NES is 72
     
  18. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    What I want to know is if this thing will work for some of the pirate clones out there. Specifically the Super Joy 3 Famiclone for me. Got the latest revision with the stupidly small PCB. I got a rather large NES controller just a moment ago and plan to shove my clone and the upcoming Fami version of this Everdrive in there. Make a sort of "999 in one" TV game player. Only this thing will need to be called "Most NES and Famicom games in one" P&P TV game system.

    Picture of what I got that will be used. Ignore the pinout diagram. This be the only picture of the model I have found:

    [​IMG]
     
  19. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

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    The contacts do not "deteriorate". The contacts due to the ZIF design may require refurbishing (proper re-bending) to achieve good contact again. Other than that, it's no different than any other cartridge slot. There is nothing wrong with the design. People just don't understand what is wrong and how it actually is different. When you use words like deteriorate it sounds like the metal is rusting or something which is not true. Also, *all* cartridge slots will require maintaining eventually. Not just the NES.
     
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