New Xbox owner here!

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  1. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    That cable should work. I have one kind of like it that also has composite and Svideo output too. Something 3rd party I believe called the "Multi Out Advanced A/V Cable".
     
  2. FireAza

    FireAza Shake! Shake!

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    How do you avoid accidentally using it in composite mode? Plugging in the RGB cables are enough?
     
  3. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    Since my model is NTSC there is no RGB. Just component, S Video, and composite. It will function putting out to all 3 at the same time although I never do it that way. Only used component for my TV set and S Video for a capture card at the same time once. The TV should only be able to display video from one mode at a time. Ie only from composite, S Video, or component (RGB in your case maybe?) at one time. At least mine works that way.
     
  4. FireAza

    FireAza Shake! Shake!

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    Sorry, I miss-typed, when I said "RGB cables" I literally meant the red, blue and green plugs, not a RGB SCART cable :p I ask, because the cable looks like it ONLY supports component, but then you said they also support composite and S-video.

    I have to say, I like the "Duke" controller, I find it quite comfortable (it's nice to have a controller where the arms don't end partway up my palms). The black and white buttons do take a bit of a stretch to press though. Seriously, what's up with those two random buttons? They couldn't think of anything better than just slapping two small unlabeled buttons onto the controller?
     
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  5. Blob

    Blob Rapidly Rising Member

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    LOL yeah we seem to be giving one too many methods to get the job done! Too Many ways to do it really... Just go with the method that is most comfortable. I like TSOPS mainly cause there's no way to brick it nor have a box hosed from kids deleting stuff from places on the xbox they don't need to be wandering around... I got 3 of them here so you betcha all boxes are TSOP flashed around here before being put into use. There's no way a box can go bad once it's been tsop flashed but if it's got the softmod or the stock setup and it bricks in that state then you've got a paperweight for sure unless you dump the eeprom to lock to another harddrive if that was the issue in the first place. But if it was tsoped then just drop in a new harddrive and then run the slayer's setup disc to format the harddrives and install your stuff or ftp into there and set it up your way instead of using the slayer disc to install stuff for you. Just bliss... Damnit I really want a xbox to work on here :( I miss em! Maybe I'll go on and just rework one of them here! :)
     
  6. hl718

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    TSOP> As others have said, the TSOP method is merely setting the built-in chip to "write-enable" and then re-writing the original BIOS with a mod-chip BIOS. While all the talk makes it sound complex, it's really a rather simple process once you have identified your motherboard type. For most boards a single dab of solder (or a short connection with a conductive pen) is all that is needed.

    Once the write-enable option is set, you can use one of many available tools to write a custom BIOS to the system. Personally, I prefer using EvoX for this simply because it is relatively small and I can easily fit the exploit code, EvoX and a BIOS file on a standard Xbox memory card.

    The process is basically:

    1) Open Xbox.
    2) Write enable TSOP chip.
    3) Boot exploited game.
    4) Run exploit (which starts EvoX).
    5) Select BIOS and flash.
    6) Unlock hard drive.
    7) Reboot.

    At this point you are modded. The whole process will take a new user about 30-60 minutes because you'll likely be double checking everything.

    The unlocking hard drive step is optional, but it will allow the drive to be used elsewhere if needed. Generally I also recommend that people make a backup of the original hard drive via EvoX (or another method) before messing around, just so you have your "stock" config to go back to at any time.

    Upgrading a hard drive on a TSOP modded system involves the following:

    1) Boot to EvoX.
    2) Back up old hard drive via FTP.
    3) Remove old hard drive.
    4) Install new hard drive.
    5) Boot to EvoX.
    6) Format.
    7) Copy files back over via FTP.

    Your new drive will have all the contents of your old one, just bigger.

    If you don't care about preserving contents, you can just drop in a new hard drive and use the Slayer Auto Installer to make it an idiot proof process.

    Hope this helps.
     
  7. FireAza

    FireAza Shake! Shake!

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    That sounds simple enough! I'll get a photo of the console's mainboard and we'll see where we need to go from there. What's the difference between the different custom BIOSs?
     
  8. APE

    APE Site Supporter 2015

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    Not much you want to worry about. I stick with the late Xecutor 2 BIOS releases myself but others have properties that allow you to flash with an entire TSOP replaement for TSOP recovery, or fix/modify the EEPROM, and other oddities. The older BIOSes often don't support 24bit LBA limiting you on HDD size.
     
  9. Lum

    Lum Officer at Arms

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    I'll just have to shell out for services. Damn fan noise is enough to warrant it, not to mention I've got a region locked Chinese Fable.
     
  10. FireAza

    FireAza Shake! Shake!

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    Got the Xbox open! Microsoft really doesn't want you getting it apart do they? Aside from that fact they used security screws on the inside (who does that?) there's so many small parts and a LOT of them are held in place with clips. I never could figure out how to remove the mainboard power cable.

    Anyway, here's some photos, are any of these what you need?
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  11. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    The Xbox is one of the easiest consoles to get apart really.
     
  12. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    Your model is a 1.0, the first version to come out. It has a 1024K TSOP chip on it. A revision 1 is easy to identify because of the fan on the smaller heatsink and the single row PSU connector. 1.1 also used the single row connector but has no fan on the GPU heatsink (the smaller one). 1.2 onward used a plug exactly like a standard 20 pin ATX connector but wired differently.

    I assume the fan on the GPU is stock and not a mod. Hope this helps.
     
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  13. FireAza

    FireAza Shake! Shake!

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    Ya gotta be kidding! Even just getting the shell apart involves ripping off the rubber feet and peeling back two stickers to even get at the screws (and even then, you need a special type of screwdriver). And if you're completely pulling it apart, there's a lot of plastic that needs to be gingerly bent to release the part (there's five tabs on the faceplate alone). Hell, even the RF shield needs some metal tabs to be bent to release it from the shell! So far, I've found the Xbox to be the most time-consuming console to dismantle.

    Cool, so this model is perfect for the TSOP mod? Will "Agent under Fire" be a suitable exploit game to get the ball rolling? Where at those points I need to bridge? And yes, I've pulled it apart just now, so it's stock :p
     
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  14. Pikkon

    Pikkon "Moving in Stereo"

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    FireAza Shake! Shake!

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    Cool, thanks!

    Where it says "Transferring the Savegames" and "Flashing the TSOP" are these two steps in the same process or do you do one instead of the other?
     
  16. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    They are 2 separate steps and both are needed. The "transfer" part is for getting the new BIOS onto the Xbox HDD. The "flashing" part is where a utility then writes the BIOS from the HDD to the TSOP chip itself.
     
  17. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    Flash the X2 5035 bios since you have 1MB TSOP. (has the most features)

    @Sonicdude. The board is 1.0 because there's no controller plugs on the board, and the GPU fan is present.
     
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  18. FireAza

    FireAza Shake! Shake!

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    What are these "most features" you speak of?

    Okay, I've placed an order for Agent Under Fire (black label version) so we'll be able to get this party started! On the hardware side of things, I just need to join those two solder points right? Would the console be okay to re-assemble at that point, or am I going to need to open it up again?
     
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  19. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    You'll know the features in the readme file.


    You can assemble the console again once the joints are connected.
     
  20. FireAza

    FireAza Shake! Shake!

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    Those features look good! Are all BIOSs able to use the same skins?
     
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