Indeed, even the fishing pole controller had gyro sensors, and that one was released (so nobody can say they didnt saw that one coming). But I bet that if the DC used a remote it would have become the laughing stock of the industry. Becos, to be honest, I always believed the wiimote "acceptance" by the gamer crowd was more due to the increasing rants coming from die-hard fanboys than real hype or surprise coming from the majority... Anyway, about the DC remote, spread the word my children. PS: barc0de, whats the difference? the concept is the same, even if you used your foot to move it...
many things look similar, that doesnt make them out-right steals of someone's idea. The wiimote was based on Television remotes more than anything.
And the person who said that was..........................a nintendo employee? No offense pal, but I dont take nintendo seriously, in the same way I dont take any corporate declarations as something written in gold. But back with nintendo, dont you remember the "movie like effects" of project reality?
I wasn't really trying to imply that Nintendo 'stole' Sega's design. I just think they look very similar. Besides, that DC remote looks next to impossible to use.
The problem I see is that the creator wanted it to be as ergonomically as possible for classic gaming, instead or just letting the player turn it over like with the wiimote.
Yes, because the mainstream (male and female of all ages and demos) only listens to what the hardcore gamers say, right? They listen to us hardcore gamers and now accept and want the same things we want, like 2D gaming on modern consoles and more fighting games and a brand new Sega console. I'm sure granny is playing Wii Sports thanks to a hardcore gamer rant she read on the internet!
Jezz, garlo go to youtube and try to find any videos about a guy talking about the benefits of 2D, then search fanmade videos of the Wii from before the unveiling, and both before and after the launch, then compare the numbers... You cant compare a bunch of oldschool gamers talking trash about the nextgen to thousands of 12-year old pokemon fanboys making blogs and videos about how awesome the Wii is going to be/is. Mouth to mouth gossip is the most most valuable form of advertising, and also the most dangerous one. Dont you remember the "N64 is for kids" one? or "the DC sucks becos it lacks DVD"? No hardcore gamer was saying that, only casuals and fanboys (in those cases, sony ones) And phre, dude the point is that a company will never tell you the truth. Just look at the sixaxis: did sony said they put the tilt sensor becos of the Wii? nope, they didnt...
no, as it can be inferred by my 3K+ posts, I m not repeating what nintendo says I actually and honestly believe, having some knowledge of industrial design, that the wiimote's ergonomics were designed around the TV remote. That's why my mom can look at it and not feel allienated. Imagine your mom seeing that big DC remote-like controller. see? different feelings, different reations. To me and you they re similar, but it's different philosophies driving the designs. One hand vs Two hands simple eh? size is also of importance in the comparison.
So granny went to youtube or read 12 year old pokemon fans blogs to find out about the Wii? Everybody knows Nintendo did excellent PR with the Wii. They managed to get articles regarding their console in magazines directed at mainstream audiences that normally would not cover a game console.
Barc0de honestly the only thing that the wiimote shares with the traditional remote is that is a rectangle, and not even that much cuz most remotes today are rounded. If you want the source of the wiimote desing check Ive's minimalistic designs since the iPod. And its not the first time nintendo takes a quote from apple: the proto GBAs where 1stgen iMac-like with white shiny plastic and colored translucent parts, and I wouldnt be surprised at all if the GC was inspired by the ill-fated G4 Cube.. And garlo, they "get"? you dont get that kind of publicity, you either pay for it or it makes itself due to a viral wave which is basically when a lot of people is talking about it and the media just cant avoid it anymore. A good example is the iPhone, which most tech mags covered in day1 but the mainstream media didnt check until almost everybody was talking about it.
Don't be daft. It's obviously designed to look like a TV remote so as to be non-threatening to people who aren't generally interested in games. This has been confirmed as a deliberate design choice by Nintendo employees, and in my own experience with the console - the intuitive nature of the device draws people in who'd never think of picking up the 360 or PS3 controller. That's exactly what Garlo was saying. Your claim was that the Wii is a success because of 12-year-old Pokemon fans and youtube videos. You were wrong.
Wait wait, you can't just jump from one to the other just randomly. I thought the whole discussion was 'how the wii ripped off the SEGA controller'. That nintendo takes cues from Apple is no secret. Even the gamecube is designed like the Apple Cube. It's insulting to say that no one else noticed that. Getting an art direction or style-direction has nothing to do with patents and the modus operandi of the machine. to clear things out: a)The Wiimote has little resemblence to the SEGA controller, and they are fundamentaly different. b)Nintendo likes Apple's style, because consumers like it too. No harm in following suit. They never claimed that the Wii or DSlite's design is 'original and unique' did they now?
I think this proves Barc0de is clearly a Nintendo Fanboy! Burn him good! :lol: Edit: joking aside, I think the DC airnights controller is very much what could be achieved at the time and the Wii-mote is an evolution of the idea. Of course, both are basically the same as wireless PC motion sensing presentation style pointers.
Yeah, the gyromouse thing predates the Wii by a good few years. A friend bought one, it was kind of fun to mess around with but it was pretty hopeless as a pointing device. I remember seeing a video of a guy playing Quake 3 with it, he was doing alright, but it's obviously no substitute in terms of accuracy for a normal mouse. I guess it looks good in front of a powerpoint presentation, though.
Possible April Fool? If not, f*** yeah - always good to have more support for the Wii, especially in the form of such a *revered* license. Just hope Sonic Team have NOTHING to do with it.
