OS version 2.00 has been released, and it's a MAJOR update

Discussion in 'Everdrive 64' started by Conker2012, Oct 26, 2013.

  1. seanami

    seanami Rising Member

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    Honestly, it just going to make me stop buying initial runs of the carts since new revisions come out so quick. Its happened to me a couple of times so far with his carts. Its the reason I haven't gotten the NES cart yet.
     
  2. adimifus

    adimifus <B>Site Supporter 2013</B><BR><B>Site Supporter 20

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    As far as I can tell, the only other EverDrive with multiple revisions is the original EverDrive[-MD]. Are the first two revisions of the EverDrive-MD still supported? I'm not counting the Mega EverDrive, as that's an entirely different beast, and was never intended to replace the original EverDrive-MD.

    Being an early adopter of anything always carries with it the risk of being left behind early. There's always the risk of hardware bugs that may be discovered and future revisions that make development easier that can lead to old hardware being incompatible. It's kind of something that should be expected going in to buying something, I think, or at least taken into consideration.
     
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  3. RaZiel

    RaZiel Enthusiastic Member

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    I have slowed down on buying mine as well since I am now on my third ED replacement cart due to hardware changes. Will it make me never buy them? I think not but I will hold out till he is done updating.
     
  4. hugocraft

    hugocraft Rising Member

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    I first discovered ED last fall for the n64 and thankfully its the V2 that I bought. Discovering the ED64 is what got me to dig out the n64 and get in retro gaming then collecting older consoles. Very happy about the cheat support and the os resolution since a friend has a mini framemeister and we would have to change settings for it to appear right since I RGB modded the n64 with amplifier.

    Also does this mean I don't have to use the memory pak in the controller and can save to the SD card for games that relied on the memory pak?
     
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  5. Antiheld

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    No, you still have to use a controller pak, otherwise these games won't save.
     
  6. derekb

    derekb Well Known Member

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    out of curiosity is there a 40 Winks IPS I could use to get it to run in color w/o scrolling on my v1?
     
  7. lovewiibrew

    lovewiibrew Site Supporter 2012

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    Nice to see a big update. Especially byte swapping save files. I was really hoping to see cover browsing however.
     
  8. Fandangos

    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    I've supported the N64 Everdrive since the beginning and I was one of the first to order so I got a big fuck you update :)
     
  9. krisk77

    krisk77 Peppy Member

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    V1 is not some defective device, cart doing all what was declared on the moment of sale, so, of course, i will not offer any exchanges.
    I pretty sure that you can sell toyr cart for the half of price, or may be even for more. Qick example: http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=6&threadid=113728
    Hardware is not gold or diamonds, things like that obsolescence pretty quick.
    Few years ago i bought top level nvidia geforce, i spend few hundreds bucks(!), but now it too slow for modern games, new geforce offer much more speed for same price. I feels cheated, cuz i can't sell my geforce even for half of price, it cost nothing. Damn, Nvidia AMD and intel must offer exchange progam, samsung and apple as wel! Why nobody warn me that hardware obsolescence so fast!? in this case i would wait for next generation, then again wait for next and so on



    This.

    Also this is the description of the Everdrive:
    -Support for 99% of all known N64 games
    -64MB (512Mbit) SDRAM for ROM data
    -SD and SDHC cards are supported
    -FAT16/FAT32 support. unlimited partition size for fat32 format
    -SD to SDRAM transfer speed up to 14MB/s
    -Emulation features (NES emulation)
    -Save support. SRAM, SRAM 128Kbyte, EEPROM 16k, EEPROM 4k and FlashRam are all supported.
    -Region Free! You can play PAL ROMs on a NTSC console, and vice-versa.
    -CIC boot emulator. A CIC-6102 (NTSC) or CIC-7101 (PAL) will allow you to play any game.
    -No extra PC software needed. Copy and paste files directly to your SD card, and play.
    -ROMs in Byteswaped and non-byteswaped format are supported.
    -USB port 800k - 1MB/s (optional, standard Everdrive 64 doesn’t include a USB port)
    -Firmware updates can be performed easily, using a SD card.
    -Runs on all N64 consoles (Any revision, Any region)
    -CIC-6105 support

    I cannot see that lifetime software updates are mentioned. Every OS update is time he spend to improve the user experience but that is not mandatory.
    The device you bought does all the things mentioned in the description. Even more. It has for example wallpaper support and memory card backup features.
    This is all bonus.

    It would be nice if he finds some time to upgrade V1 but this is not his duty.
     
  10. Fandangos

    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    You are only forgetting that at least fast SD loading was promised for V1 and never made. It was promised like "faster SD loading will come to v1" period.

    The second point you are not following here is that even you don't want to add support for all those things on the V1 and only on V2, you must remember that people who bought first with you are your most loyal costumers and the ones you should treat best. Well, take should in the ways of: you can be an asshole but you should be a nice person. There's nothing preventing you from being an asshole but the world would be a better place if you were a nice person.

    Besides this isn't Apple as your Iphone 2 should go to trash because Iphone 3 is here, this is OS firmware update that can be implemented with a little bit of goodwill.

    And even all that points explained, people that buy it first hand in the first batch usually buy all other products because it's following the seller/industry/person very closely and even there's no law against lies or "I don't careness" of people you shouldn't be an asshole and left customers aside.

    As you said it's a bonus. A bonus some people that payed the same amount as others got and some don't.
    Again there's no rules against unfairness but it would be better if you don't be unfair to your costumers. ​
     
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  11. gundamn

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    "And even all that points explained, people that buy it first hand in the first batch usually buy all other products because it's following the seller/industry/person very closely and even there's no law against lies or "I don't careness" of people you shouldn't be an asshole and left customers aside."

    Then go ahead and buy V2 and stop complaining about that you didn't get the update. No one said that updates will halt for V1 in the first place.
    All KRIKzz said is that OS V2.XX is only for ED64 V2 because it was made from scratch. Maybe you will get an 1.30. Who knows.
    But now it's time to use all the features the V2 provides.
     
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  12. Fandangos

    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    Actually, according to the posts here Krikzz said the v1 is discontinued. So no updates.

    Before I stop bitching about it a friend had an awesome argument that he said on IRC about this:
    The V2 were only possible because people bought V1. If v1 didn't sold a single copy the developer wouldn't have made the improved version.

    So it seems a few suckers are necessary for others to enjoy a better product.
    So enjoy your better product that you payed the exact same amount as I did only a few months later while I use this discontinued product.

    By the way, this also brings a nice picture that the Everdrive 64 v1 is now abandonware so the chinese could feel less guilty about cloning it.

    Just for future reference:
    No it won't.
     
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  13. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    I could bitch because my Everdrive MD is a 2.5 and the 3.0 was released recently with more features than the 2.5. Not going to because the 3.0 has different hardware to allow for the new features. Same with the ED64. Also I have a 2.0 board so no complaints from me. ;)

    Stop bitching you who have a 1.0 board. Sell the fucking thing and get a 2.0 board if you want those new features that bad. Going to do that with my EDMD.
     
  14. gundamn

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    Where is your quote regarding discontinuity. When you quote one thing quote another.
    Also V2 came out almost 2 years ago and V2 almost 3.

    "So it seems a few suckers are necessary for others to enjoy a better product.
    So enjoy your better product that you payed the exact same amount as I did only a few months later while I use this discontinued product."

    Exactly. You will find this everywhere.
     
  15. Fandangos

    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    Here it is:
    This is quoted from another forum on this same thread. I'm really sad to see that you are posting since page one and wasn't able to read it all.


    When you do it, you promote someone else's product almost as an affiliate forcing another sale for the product maker without getting a dime as an affiliate.

    Good industries that praise for costumer loyalty they usually do something like take the old back and sell new one with a discount but I would quote myself again saying there's nothing preventing you from being an asshole.
     
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  16. gundamn

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    I have read that a week ago over at KRIKzz and it is totally out of context.
    Do you even know what legacy support is? It means that the OS V2.XX will never support ED V1. Nothing more.
    Nobody said that ED V1 is discontinued.
     
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  17. gundamn

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    Your industrie will not last long ;)
     
  18. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    That only works for companies that are decent sized and have the money. Krikzz is just one guy doing this himself and doesn't have the money to offer that. And I fail to see how selling old stuff in favor of newer from the same place makes you "an affiliate". Just because I buy 2 things from a seller on eBay does that make me an affiliate for them? No it doesn't. You become "an affiliate" when you go about spamming about a product and get paid to do so.

    Your argument is invalid.
     
  19. Bad_Ad84

    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    I dont understand people complaining. Tech moves quick, you got what you paid for. Stop complaining. Dont like it, go buy a 64drive or something at twice the price.
     
  20. Fandangos

    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    Good relationship with your costumers is a good thing.. if you don't get it.. see there's good in both parts of the text that should help.

    You reversed it and it does apply to everything, big industries and small markets.

    Your argument about it's just one guy seems like "poor krikzz, here take another $160 bucks" and that's not how it works. He sells products that have high value - obviously not as a car - but high value for electronics.

    To sell your old you make a post, an ad, a thread, or anything online, this counts as promotion for the product, the thing is that he's pushing the newer model even everybody knowing he can do for the v1 and just doesn't fell like it - as he said himself.
    Pushing the old, movement his market, it's the way affiliates work, it was just an example no more than that, just an example of how this situation could be seem.

    Moot argument.
    There are dozens of things more expensive than the Everdrive 64: a car, a house.
    Lack of competition isn't an excuse to favor a few buyers and not the others.
     
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