OS version 2.00 has been released, and it's a MAJOR update

He never said that. You are putting words into his mouth

 

@Fandangos, :: shrug :: I am a realist. I know what I do, and what it is. I never said I was against devs making money, and definitely never said that "piracy is better than having the real hardware."

The ED64 is useless without ROMs on the SD card to play. Profitable for those that make and sell it to be sure, but still a paperweight without ROMs (and not a collectible as you seem to be saying, unless you like collecting N64 carts as paperweights).

Calling a spade a spade yes, I know ROMs = piracy at the basest level. I don't care. If Nintendo still sold the carts in the store, maybe I'd buy them (and maybe I wouldn't, but that's another discussion). Then the money would go to the devs and all would be right with the world. No matter how you want to spin it, if you buy a N64 cart today, NONE of that money goes to the devs, so that argument is invalid. To be honest I'm not even sure that most of the people that worked on the majority of those games even work for Nintendo any more, so they wouldn't be able to get anything anyway. And the virtual console ports are sad to say not paying the devs either, they just line Nintendo's fat cats' pockets (as well as being lousy compared to original hardware).

And I totally don't see how any of that relates to buying the ED64 (which was what I had been talking about), since it's not even a Nintendo product and they'd probably love to see it gone.

I still don't see your point, but at this point it's obvious you don't understand mine. No reason to continue this here, PM me if you wish to continue this discussion.

 

And apparently someone else is taking words out of my mouth, since my last post responding to Fandangos has disappeared. Meh, whatever. My cart should arrive tomorrow so I can test a bunch and will give feedback with 2.04 (or the next update if there is one by then).

 

Wish you all the best.

I'm done arguing here too.
I'll try to e-mail Krikzz directly to see if there's way around this.
Let's hope I can convince him to support his older buyers not just the newest ones.

 

You are wasting your time. KRIKzz already said that there is neither exchange nor any discount.

 

While I'd like to know how Krikzz responds, gundamn might have a point. We're wasting our time here. Up the creek without a paddle we older buyers are.

 

If I was Bill Gates back in 1995 when Windows 95 came out, I wouldn't be supporting it anymore at all today. It's legacy and belongs in a tech museum. Same with the V1.0 carts. Legacy. Put it on your collection shelf for the day when all retro gaming goes purely to software emulators...

 

Thought you were done here?

 

To Fandango and other "angry supporters" of V1.

I think you should calm down, and buy V2 and sell V1.
I bought MagicKey for NeoGeo at 250US$ and 1 month later the 2013 edition comes out at 150US$ with more features, too bad for me.
So I lost 100US$ and can't use the new features with any upgrade .... I had 2 possibilities, buy the new version and sell the old and lose another say 50/70US$ or keep it for what it is and play what it can play .... and I made peace with it, I kept playing with the old and I'm happy with it.

In your case ED64 V1 is probably 2 times slower than V2 in loading, and that is the only aspect that would be a nice to have improvement, the rest is moot, likely all the games minus a couple work just fine, so the extra 2 games supported are really a no starter, the extra features were never there to begin with so get over it.
I own MegaED, MasterED, ED-N8, TurboED, ED64, SD2SNES, and I'm pretty sure the features are now set and I don't see changes (promised or not) really coming. MegaED will likely never receive FM support ... also new boards have 32MB instead of 16MB and Krikzz said he may actually allow the usage of those 32MB ... obviously I have a 16MB version so no beef for me ... I'll live. MasterED loads too slow and likely will never receive an OS update and that name truncation pester me to no end but it does what it was supposed to do so I'll live. SD2SNES will likely never get SuperFX or SA-1 support in its present incarnation and so the extra 6 games that it plays wrt SuperED do not justify the 100US$ more but so be it, I took the risk to support the dev anyway. TurboED would need an Arcade Edition version with the extra RAM but that would require new hardware, so no luck there too. ED-N8 has a dreadful sound "implementation" for FDS and VRC6 (probably other "mappers with sound extensions" are borderline hideous) and will likely see little improvement, well guess what .... I'll survive that too. For ED64 I was "lucky" to get a V2 but you never know when a V3 comes around at which point I'll be stuck there too, and once more I'll survive, at that point I can either stay with what I have or sell and buy the "V3", my call, no need to be bitching around.

My point is to take it easier and not get so hung up with all that "I was an earlier supporter" blah blah blah, you did what you did because it was good for YOU and not for anyone else, it served your purpose and so be it.
Yes, earlier adopters do get the short end of the stick in the long term because products get ameliorated over time and new features are not back-ported to old hardware revisions, it's always been the case: first PS2 did not support Progressive Scan, did not have embedded IR for remote controller, did not have integrated NIC and so on .... I don't recollect a buy back program from Sony.
Earlier XBOX 360 did not have HDMI, MS did not exchanged them when HANA chip came out to replace the older ANA (add an L to it and you can understand how many people felt like at that point).
I bought iPad1 1 month before iPad2 came out, and I had to suck it up, then I sold it and bought iPad3 and 6 month later iPad4 came out, and guess what I had to suck it up again, but I got a lot of usage out of what I bought anyway and I sold the old one so I recouped a little and I'm not holding Apple "responsible".
I can go on forever ..... your false sense of entitlement because you were among the "V1 elite" is nauseating.

Support if you want, don't support if you don't want, but stop whining, for Christ sake we're talking about 100US$ here and for videogames, if you cannot envision loosing 50% of it in a resale to get the "new version" then don't buy anything.

Definitely see a shrink 'cause you have issues, nobody owes you anything, KRIKzz is running a business and having fun at it, period (I actually envy him, having fun and making money out of a hobby, priceless).

I didn't like that Krikzz charged 10US$ for empty famicom shells, I understood why, still didn't like it so I didn't buy, period.
I didn't like that the MegaED has the same HW than ED64 but costs almost 50% more, oh well I wanted it anyway so paid the price.

I do understand your disappointment at the same time you better realize that once you buy anything you're not purchasing future proofing, and however madly you believe in it, you're fooling yourself.
Regarding videogames you should consider any money you spent as a total loss the second you press the "pay" button, that will allow you to handle your anger issues much better because any enjoyment you get out of it would come as a surprise given you already wrote it off as a total loss and anything you don't like won't be half as bad as still you thought of it as a total loss yet you got something out of it.

Enough with the "grow a pair", you got my drift.

I have nothing personal against you BECAUSE I don't know you, I just couldn't stomach the sense of righteousness emanating from your posts. I'm pretty sure you're one of the good guys so don't stop supporting new products, but if you can't come to grasp with the fact that you may be sinking money into a loosing proposition then "V1 supporter" is not your thing, lay back and let someone else do that and buy the V2.

 

Got a TL;DR of all your babble there? Looks like more sucking up and not anything helpful or useful there.

 

@phoenixdownita
+1

 

Basically shut the fuck up since you got what you paid for. If you want more then upgrade. No one owes you ANYTHING.

 

It's not babble, it's reasoned argument. Though if you can't be bothered to read a few paragraphs of text, then I'm guessing you're not amenable to reason? And though I don't approve of the expletive, Sonic sums up your position well when he says "Basically shut the fuck up since you got what you paid for. If you want more then upgrade. No one owes you ANYTHING.".

My own ED64 is a verson 2, but if Krikzz releases an OS update that won't work on mine because (I'm making the specs up as I know nothing of the ED64's build, BTW) my ED64 has a v468 motherboard, and the OS update only works on v470 motherboards onwards, then I'd be annoyed, but I wouldn't expect Krikzz to either release a working update for v468 motheboards or to swap my Ed64 for a later one. It would be great if he did, but he isn't legally or morally obliged to. The ED64 did what was said of it, when you bought it, and that's all there is to it. I'm really hoping Krikzz improves the Gameshark support in OS 2.x, and other are hoping he'll add cover/screenshot views on the ED64's game load menu, but if he doesn't, or if he does but it only works on later ED64s then we have no reason to complain.

 

anyone? bueller?

 

does the "paladin" tool not work to patch the video modes to NTSC?

 

never even heard of that, I'll check it out

 

This, times a million.

Seriously, stop whining.

 

I won't post on the subject.
I've made my point and I keep seeing really flaw arguments trying to support the other side.
The big wall text above is a really good example of bad arguments where code and hardware are misunderstood all together.

But this:

Is the ultimate crap that keeps rolling down this forum.

Don't want to read my text? Block it.
Am I arguing to something directly to you? No.

I'm commenting on a subject to express what I think which is the basics of a FORUM but your argument is just shut up.

Internet discussions are based on opinions, while you don't like mine, you and Sonicdude10 share the same one: none.

I hope this bullshit ends here, if you have something to say, say it and expect a reply, if you have nothing to say, please, follow your own advice.

 

While that wasnt directed at you (as you are being less of an asshole about it than the other guy)....

You keep saying its a flaw, you are completely ignoring the fact you still have exactly what was sold to you, which you were happy to buy at the time. This is why you are getting the response you are getting - you are ignoring you have what you paid for, this happens all the time, you cant stop progress and are basically trying to make krizz look like the bad guy because you are having a hissy fit.

He doesnt owe you updates, at all. You were owed what was advertised the cart would do at the time of purchase - which it still does. Any additional work krikzz does after the sale is an added bonus, not a right.