Phat PS3s losing OtherOS?

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by phate, Mar 29, 2010.

  1. Hellcat

    Hellcat Robust Member

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    Yeah, I used good-ol' PS3-Proxy to fake the updatelist and get online.
    Fortunately this works, otherwise there would've no way to deactivate my Fat PS3....

    But this'll keep the Slim from updateing as well for a time....
     
  2. Skaarg

    Skaarg Enthusiastic Member

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    Just out of curiosity does anybody know an option for PS3-Proxy that will run on linux? My desktop computer has Ubuntu, and right now I'm using PS3-Proxy on my laptop which is a hassle since it's mostly my girlfriend using it and if she shuts it down, takes it with her, etc. I lose online access for my PS3.
     
  3. port187

    port187 Serial Chiller

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    So I was right.

    Any update/fix would be software in Linux, Linux has to work with the current hardware & possible faults would need to be dealt with in Linux and has nothing to do with any firmware update Sony would throw at it.. as thats GameOS ONLY :nod: but I guess you fanboys don't give up when trying to make a point.

    They don't need support, they are NOT affected by the firmware updates released by Sony or any issues that might pop up and will never be.
    The only support they need from Sony is if the console itself breaks down, and Sony never mentioned they would loose any kind of warrenty if they choose not to update the GameOS.
    The support they do need is support from the Linux distro they are using, they will have to fix any issues found on the console.

    I have no idea, my ps3's have never broken down, nor do I know or ever heared of anybody that had to send his or her ps3 back to sony for repairs.. so you will have to hunt down that 1 unlucky guy to ask him :thumbsup:
     
  4. alecjahn

    alecjahn Site Soldier

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    I'm not really in the know of the entire process, but what would happen if you can run Logan5's tool through Wine? I suppose it would come down to how the network connections transfer through?
     
  5. port187

    port187 Serial Chiller

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    If Wine doesn't work you can try installing VirtualBox and running a simple XP in a VM with Logans5 tool running there.
     
  6. Tachikoma

    Tachikoma Officer at Arms

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    That's because outside of the initial "how dare you sir?" reaction from people on the internet, everyone realised it's not worth fighting for.
     
  7. A. Snow

    A. Snow Old School Member

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    Someone will file suit eventually...
     
  8. Quzar

    Quzar Spirited Member

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    Way to show a bias and launch an unfounded ad hominem attack at once. I'm not anti-Sony (well, maybe for playing a hand in killing off the DC, but that's water under the bridge by now) nor pro-M$ or pro-Nintendo. I'm against features being removed in hardware via software. Do you mean I'm a fanboy of sense, of education, of reason?

    You seem to not understand how an OS (especially on a console) interacts with the hardware, but much goes through the firmware. There CAN be bugs that would impact both OtherOS and GameOS.

    I mean, think back to the 2.10 update that blocked a workaround in Linux to access some 3D ability if you need a concrete example of how the firmware does interact with the OS.
     
  9. port187

    port187 Serial Chiller

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    Yet the academics and such bought and ordered the PS3 as was and never needed to update the firmware, they are not affected.
    The only problem I see are new academics that are interested in buying PS3's for this use, but Sony doesn't make much/to any profit on them anyway. I remember Sony declining a big order from the US militairy for this reason.
    Also that they blocked features at a later stage so that hobbyists and what not didn't use the workaround doesn't affect the yet running or ordered academic PS3s that were not planning to use 3D abilities anyway or didn't update to 2.10 or beyond.

    I agree with you on being against removing features, and take my words back and apologies on the fanboy thing. I was getting tired of all the lousy unfounded/my console is better then yours because.. fanboy posts in this thread I was too fast labelling you as one too.

    At the end of the day the GameOS users that are affected have only a very small base of users actually heavily using OtherOS.
    OtherOS only users are not affected if not manually updating or updating in GameOS.

    Others only use OtherOS for showing off that we could, or play around with it a couple of times and realize its slow as shit with only 256 ram, no direct GPU access and too much of a hustle switching between both OS's anyway.
     
  10. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    http://geohotps3.blogspot.com/

    Lawl
    $5 it's not a CFW and is nothing more then a hack via linux to be a version spoofer (ie editing a resource file to change the system's version number). Also no chance in hell it gets linux running on a slim (he is stupid for thinking it will).
     
  11. Skaarg

    Skaarg Enthusiastic Member

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    This is awesome. Geohot doesn't seem like the type of person to fuck around with fake videos. I anticipate a release here really soon!
     
  12. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    I wonder what the piracy implications of this are. Pirating games this big though seems like a pain in the ass..all that temporary storage disk space, the needed usenet/internet connection of proper speed, BD-R, electricity, storage, markers, etc.

    It's not worth it.

    PS: unless he makes an HDD USB hack. Then I m game, I love gaming jukeboxes=)
     
  13. Trenton_net

    Trenton_net AKA SUPERCOM32

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    Are slims unable to run Linux hardware wise?
     
  14. alphagamer

    alphagamer What is this? *BRRZZ*.. Ouch!

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    I don't think so. Sony just wanted to make the new revision of the PS3 more appealing by taking features away... reverse marketing...
     
  15. hl718

    hl718 Site Soldier

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    A PS3 Slim has all the hardware necessary to run Linux.

    The only reason it does not is because the hypervisor on the Slim doesn't allow it.

    If Sony wanted to it could enable Linux on the Slim tomorrow. Or, if the hypervisor is fully exploited in the future (without needing to first be in Linux) then Linux support could be enabled by others in a relatively trivial manner.

    -hl718
     
  16. phate

    phate Enthusiastic Member

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    I personally believe that is just a simple flag and that whatever it takes to support the OtherOS function is there on both the slim and the updated Phat PS3s.

    [Hypervisor.cfg]
    OtherOS=OFF
    Bullshit=ON
     
  17. thelastuser

    thelastuser Peppy Member

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    Actually every sony bluray film i've seen has required your ps3 firmware match the one they require in the .sfo on disc,.. they even put the firmware on the disc for you >.<

    I seen a few similar posts here, but all NTSC launch consoles weren't able to install otheros untill firmware update 1.10 iirc.. so that's every CECHA AND CECHB that's out there.
     
  18. port187

    port187 Serial Chiller

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    You can all point out firmware versions that are unable or don't allow otheros installs but all I was saying is that if and when academics bought it to install linux on it, it had a firmware that supported that at that point in time.. so any version phat ps3 with any firmware betweem 1.10 and 3.15 bought by academics worked fine and are still working today and will stay working in the future as they have no need to update.
     
  19. thelastuser

    thelastuser Peppy Member

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    ^^ yep most likely.. I was just trying to point out that otheros install was not present "day 1" ;)
     
  20. hl718

    hl718 Site Soldier

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    Except for those that work from home and thought it would be nice to be able to flip on a Blu-ray in the evening when they weren't developing. Remember, you don't need to be on the console itself to work on it. It's not uncommon to run a Linux box headless.

    So having the PS3 in the entertainment center is a perfect possible scenario with a very high GAF. Work on it during the day via SSH, VNC, X-Server, etc. then head downstairs, reboot the system and crash on the couch for a movie.

    I didn't think anyone aside from Sony would truly that that everyone who used Linux on the PS3 *never* booted a game or Blu-ray. Do you really think that everyone who programs has no social life? ;)

    -hl718
     
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