[PS2] POPS stuff & POPStarter

Thanks for responding . Now, I need know how I can identify my USB device as fast or slow. And the launch type that I used is not listed on report compatibility website, since I used a 0.9.4 rev928.

A bientôt .

 

Hey @AlGollan84,
by posting exclusively in French, you exclude the majority of users from understanding your posts. Could you please try to also include an English translaton in the future so we can all benefit? Thank you.


On a different note, this thread is now almost up to 100 pages. I don't know if there's an upper limit, but in any case I doubt anyone will work through all of this looking for info. Maybe it's time to consolidate all the pieces of wishdom in a new thread?

 

Let me give a tip to our friend @AlGollan84. Do as Antonioks and Joseri do: Put a translated text in ENG with your french message. Also try another tradutor website. I can understand you translating your text to portuguese BR.

 

Bonsoir messieurs les membres de cet excellent site que j'aime beaucoup, j'ai nommé "ASSEMblergames".

Antonioks est un excellent ami, nous nous aimons beaucoup. Nous habitons malheureusement trop loin l'un de l'autre.

Je veux bien "tenter" de faire traduire mes "propos" par un traducteur automatique mais j'ai déjà eu des soucis avec cela. Demandez, par exemple, à "UniqueUserName" du site "psx-scene.com" ce qu'il en pense et vous serez surpris des prouesses qu'il doit faire pour bien comprendre mon Français qui n'est pas des plus difficiles à traduire. Je le remercie particulièrement pour sa grande sympathie envers moi tout autant que bien d'autres Modérateurs du site "psx-scene".

Je ne ferai pas comme "Antonioks" ou "Joseri" car je n'ai et n'aurai jamais confiance envers "ces traducteurs", je vous demande de m'en excuser. Vous avez les outils et moi j'ai le langage, mon vieux Français. Je suis âgé (58 ans) et l'Anglais est très difficile pour moi, sachez-le. Je vous aide du mieux que je le peux. Les clés que je vous ai indiqué plus haut sont d'excellentes clés USB2 et USB3, elles sont des références pour moi et beaucoup de ceux que je connais de part le monde. Essayez-les et vous serez conquis par leur qualité et leur vitesse d'écriture/lecture. Sur mes APPLE "MacMini C2D/2,53Ghz/8Go Ram/ 1 SSD 500Go/ 1 SSHD 750Go" elles font "plafonner" au Maximum le Bus USB2. Sur un MacBook-Pro avec bus USB3 c'est encore pire, il sature lui aussi sur la clé "Patriot Supersonic - Rage 64Go", ma fille aînée en est conquise.

Pour votre clé @Zicon, je ne peux pas vous en dire plus que de chercher des tests détaillés par le fabricant ou par des revues techniques très complètes.

Bon courage et merci de votre sollicitude, merci aussi par avance pour tous les tests que vous réaliserez, c'est kHn qui en serra content, moi je rempli les listes avec vos rapports (et les miens aussi).

"Kind regards", très cordialement.

Algol "le papy", ou "Grandad" comme se plait à me le dire "UniqueUserName".

 

Greetings, ladies and gentlemen.

My PSOne died and I would like tu use my PS2 to play old games when I find time.

Hardware:
PS2 SCPH-39004
IHDD label MIC Ultra ATA (160gb)
Network adaptator SCPH-10350

I used the "newbie pack" image on my IHDD to get FHDB. It was in order to get the opportunity to play PS1 games through IHDD or USB stick.
I tried PS2PSXe but it failed. I get black screen after the game logo. It "vibrate" and then goes dark. I tried every BIOS I could find..

I tried POPstarter following the ShaolinAssassin tutorial found here:
https://bitbucket.org/ShaolinAssassin/popstarter-documentation-stuff/wiki/quickstart-usb

It did not work. I got black sreen again.

So I followed tips from ShaolinAssassin and used "PPF-O-Matic" with the debug patch found here:
https://bitbucket.org/ShaolinAssassin/popstarter-documentation-stuff/wiki/debug-mode

It said to give here the texts shown so here it goes:
"""
POPStarter, Revision 13
Build Date 2015/06/03
WIP 05 PUBLIC RELEASE

* POPSTARTER LAUNCHER INITIALIZATION *
* USB MASS STORAGE DEVICE LOADING MODE *

sio2man : 25
usbd : 26
usbhdgfsg : 27

Opening mass:/POPS/...[]
"""
For information, I tried the game ISO (S*ul Bl*de) on pSX_1_13 emulator and it worked with the PSO - "DTLH3002.BIN" BIOS, with few sound issues.

Could you, please, help me?

 

@IvanPepe can you post a list of your files in a POPS folder.

 

Of course.

Inside my POPS folder is:
POPS_IOP.PAK (917ko)
Soul_Blade_PAL.VCD (516.135ko)
XX.Soul_Blade_PAL.ELF (129ko)

Note that I found "POPS_IOX.PAK" and renamed it "POPS_IOP.PAK". I hoped it was the right thing to do.
I give you the size of the files in case it can be useful, but it is not part of their names.

 

Hmm, POPStarter Revision 13, WIP 05 (2015/06/03) doesn't support "POPS_IOX.PAK", so look for a "POPS.PAK"
(renaming "POPS_IOX.PAK" to a "POPS.PAK" will not help).

You also need a "PFS_WRAP.BIN" file in a POPS folder for a USB.

BTW why you rename "POPS_IOX.PAK" to "POPS_IOP.PAK"?

 

The POPStarter version you have is older than the PAK file, meaning it's not supported (POPStarter cannot unpack/load it).
POPS_IOX.PAK is for use with the beta version of POPStarter.
Also, the PAK files cannot be renamed.

POPStarter WIP 05 (the one you tried) requires another file in the POPS folder to work in USB mode, PFS_WRAP.BIN. This file isn't needed by the beta version.

Judging by the debug texts you've posted, it looks more like a USB access issue. Increasing the USB access delay may help...

EDIT : and by the way, Soul Blade (all versions) gives horrible character glitches on POPS.

 

To add: all of these information are in a DaSA tutorial (including "POPS.PAK", "PFS_WRAP.BIN")
that you (@IvanPepe) posted.

To add delay, create CHEATS.TXT in a POPS folder.
Open it and add $USBDELAY_#
Eg: $USBDELAY_5

 

Alright.

Thank you both for your quick answers.

If I understand well, I am working with the wrong set of software.
I am aware that I cannot ask for a direct link on this forum. Would it be acceptable to ask for a more specific private message, please? On where to find the right set of software?

@Jolek: I tought it was the same kind of BIOS but with a different name. Same as a gamer calling a PS1 (the first gen) à PSOne (the second gen, smaller). I am new to this "freeing console" thing. Changing the name was a desperate move to give POPStarter the BIOS it needed and that I did not find.

@krHACKen: Could you elaborate the part about the "Increasing the usb access delay", please? How could I do that? I tried with two separate USB stick. I am currently using a recently bought-one on the sole POPS purpose.

EDIT: I just read your other post about DaSA tutorial. I will try to find this post and get it working. I will keep you posted. Thanks again!

 

There are two USB access delays that can be set : one for POPStarter, the other for POPS.

If POPStarter fails to open a file from the USB device or freezes trying to access it :
A higher USB access delay for POPStarter must be hard-patched to the config table of the POPSTARTER.ELF, at the offset 413 (hexadecimal) of the file, as said in the wiki.

If POPS kicks you to the PS2 menu because it cannot find the VCD on your USB device, or if POPS freezes when it's executed :
A higher USB access delay for POPS must be set to the CHEATS.TXT file, with the command $USBDELAY_#.
(cannot be done with the WIP 05. It's a beta POPStarter feature).

 

@krHACKen thanks, I forgot that CHEATS.TXT will not work with stable WIP 05.

@IvanPepe Use Google, duckduckgo, etc.
Type:

Code:

POPS.PAK

 

@IvanPepe and guys : my bad, my fault on this. I realised yesterday that I mixed infos of stable and betas releases in this quickstart guide (ie I said POPS_IOP.PAK instead of POPS.PAK - and I forgot PFS_WRAP.BIN in the previous version of the guide) -_-
I updated the page yesterday and also updated the USB pack.

Sorry for the incovenience. *ashamed*

 

My issue update:
I just tried with the beta version (WIP 06) of POPStarter.
If I understood well, it has some perks such as the USB Delay. Unfornately, I had a black screen. I tried with the "CHEATS.TXT" and the delay line to "$USBDELAY_5". Same problem.

Here is the text:
"""
POPStarter, Revision 13
Build Date: 2016/09/18
WIP 06 OPEN BETA TEST

* POPSTARTER LAUNCHER INITIALIZATION *
* USB MASS STORAGE DEVICE LOADING MODE *

sio2man : 25
icaan : 26
usbd : 27
usbhdfsg : 28

Opening mass:/POPS/...[]
"""
And then it just stays trapped on this screen.

What did I miss, please?
Again, sorry: I am new to all this.

PS: I hope the glitches are not too bad. I sincerely am hyped to get back to Soul Blade.

 

What PAK did you use:
"POPS.PAK" or a "POPS_IOX.PAK"

Add more info:
- files in a POPS folder
- size of a VCD file
- MD5 checksum (bin file)

I have tried Soul Blade SCES_00.577 and the game should at least boots.
MD5 (BIN) checksum:

Code:

77e20b0635dfac6576309bb2d43cf566

 

Hello @IvanPepe.

De quel type est votre clé USB, est-ce une USB1, USB2 (Fast ou Slow) voire une USB3 ? Avez-vous pensé à la formater avant d'y inscrire vos jeux (cela a peu d'importance avec POPStarter (et les jeux PS1 en général) mais ce n'est pas négligeable) ??? Regardez bien la ou les listes officielles, de précieux renseignements y sont inscrits.

Bon WE à vous.

Vous pouvez me contacter par MP si vous le désirez, je vous répondrai en Français.

 

$USBDELAY_# does not affect POPStarter, it affects the emulator (POPS) which here is not yet loaded, due to the problem accessing mass:/POPS.

I had a look at the POPStarter source code to see what it actually does when it says "Opening mass:/POPS/...".
It issues fioGetstat to check if the POPS folder does exist. If fioGetstat returns an error, POPStarter does fioMkdir to create the POPS folder, and prints "FAILED" after the "...".
Since you don't even get "FAILED" after "Opening mass:/POPS/...", I guess fioGetstat crashed the USBHDFSD driver, maybe because your drive isn't properly formatted...

Is your USB drive FAT formatted ? If it's NTFS formatted, then it'll not work.

As bad as this unfortunately. And there's no known fix. I can't remember if the odd glitches affect the gameplay, but it definitely ruins the fun.

 

I used "POPS_IOX.PAK". I thought it was the one I am supposed to use with POPStarter WIP 06. Did I misunderstand?

In my POPS is:
CHEATS.TXT
POPS_IOX.PAK
Soul_Blade_PAL.VCD
XX.Soul_Blade_PAL.ELF

I am sorry, I do not know what this "MD5" means. I found the ISO on another website.

My USB is a scandisk "cruzer switch" 16gb. I formatted it in FAT32. It is brand new so I assume it is at least USB2.

The first thing I did was to formate it in FAT32.

What should I do? Thank you all for your help!

PS: I still would like to try it out. Maybe it is not "that" bad..

 

Re-bonjour @IvanPepe.

Je ne veux pas dire de bêtises mais il me semble qu'un certain nombre d'utilisateurs du type de clé USB2 que tu as mentionné se sont plaint à de maintes reprises du mauvais fonctionnement de ces clés. Si tu le peux, fais-toi en prêter une autre d'un type de clé USB2 normale.
Voici celles que j'utilisent fréquemment : "PATRIOT Memory RAGE Supersonic" 32 ou 64Go. Ce sont des USB3 avec un contrôleur interne rapide et une bonne quantité de mémoire tampon interne. Il existe aussi de la même marque des USB2 qui se nomme seulement des "PATRIOT RAGE". Ce sont toutes des cléfs que l'on peut nommer des "Fast" pour nos PS2 voire PS3.

Passe un bon WE.