PS3 slim no backwards compatability-heres why

about the linux part:
http://playstation2-linux.com/forum/message.php?msg_id=51038

 

Actually, most commom defective units of the PS3 are mostly from the first 20GB and 60GB models. Even if the defect rate is low (nowhere near the 360 or the older PS2), most problems happens usually on those two particular models.

Problems range from dead blu-ray drive, dead AC adapter, fried board...

I haven't heard of the 80GB and 160GB (current / to be discontinued) having problems like that.

 

The Other OS feature was nice and a cool showpiece item for the ps3 but what advantages does Linux OS have over the standard XMB OS, at least in regards to having it on a game console? For emulators maybe?

I haven't read alot about people using PS3s under Linux on a regular basis or having a clear advantage over just the standard sony os.

 

Yeah the thing is i can see them doing that as a marketing strategy. See what they did was to get early stages they bundled the console with loads of little extras and gadgets.

This was to make those early adopters who were just about to fall off the fence jump. You see one of them says "ah i can install linux now ill buy" then the other "ah its has a memory card reader i can see my pictures on the tv now ill buy" then once all the on the fence people decided they wanted to buy sony decided to fix the profit line by removing everything they can and trying to get the not so early adopters to buy.

Next from sony PS3 SLIM SLIMER. (Note power supply outside console.)

 

No backwards compatibility, but you could just buy a reworked collection of the first two God of War games for PS3.

I think this is potentially the first of several big-name series that we'll see coming to the PS3 with slight graphical improvements. I'm sure it won't be long before Metal Gear Solid and Resident Evil make an appearance, and maybe even things like Ratchet & Clank?

Thing is, I really don't want to pay for a disc, case and manual. Stick these games up on PSN for a reasonably reduced cost and I'd be much more likely to make a purchase.

 

Someone should sue Sony for using the stupid advertising line 'Does Everything' as the PS3 Slim does a lot less then the machine it's replacing...

 

So..I ll have to pay again for something I already own just because my PS3 isn't backwards compatible.. no thanks. I d rather have paid 50 extra to actually have BC than to shell out 40 for two ported PS2 games.

I wish at least that they sold the EE+GS on a small expansion board so you could buy and slot it in - but lacking a bay to do so...ehr, end of rant

 

Heh, I come from the school of thought where if it's not physical, I'd rather not have it :icon_bigg
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But still more than anything else in the console market. Irony.

 

yeah, if they come the "but we upscaled it, but it again!" lark or (more likely) start reselling the games on DD like a tuned pop-station style individual software emu thing then it's a kick in the balls for people with collections.

though then again, people with decent collections probably didn't sell their PS2 yet so....

But yeah, the god of war thing is a bit stinky. I don't care if they have trophies either, it still smells a bit.

i can let that slide , but the playface adverts are seriously fucking annoying.
Even more weird is this is a rerun of the adverts from the initial PS3 launch (or at least similar - having people look at the screen going "WOOOAH!" etc) - if it didn't spark interest then, throwing a bunch of gurning fucking hipsters on a screen is going to work now?

Anyways, seems that the US ads are looking a lot better, Japanese ones still a complete hotstack.

 

Unless of course you're one of those poor unfortunate buggers that lives in Europe as it's not coming out there this year. Oh, wait a mo.... damn. Cheers for that Sony.

I really can't understand what the difficulty is in pressing a run of discs that have a EUR region code, if any at all. I can't see there being any licencing issues as the games are made by a Sony studio, and they've already been rated in this country.

 

I'm wondering if I should get a PS3 now. My manager is selling his PS3 which is PS2 compatibility for $250. Is that a good deal? The only thing is he told me the eject button works on and off. The slim is very tempting at the $299 price point and I read the wireless adapter picks up a wireless signal much better than the larger units. Hmm.. what to do what to do... :shrug:

 

Just get the slim. This is being blow out of all proportion by people that aren't even going to buy one anyway.

 

Sony didn't want to pony up to support BC, so it's easy to fund a study with whatever biased sample of people they want to prove whatever point they want to make. This isn't science, by a stretch.

BC costs per console, and shareholders want money. It seems that only Nintendo has mastered the BC pattern. With Nintendo trouncing everyone else in the marketplace, you'd think the other companies would realize that consumers consider that real value, if you can hit the low price point.

Xbox 360 BC was ok, but it's too bad it was limited to so little of the library. I just wish they had crowdsourced that job. The whole Xbox library would be BC by now.

 

Other than the Other OS feature, what else is missing?

 

Backwards Compat, Super Audio CD support and other stuff that was removed between launch and now I think. Honestly I don't care about any of it really. If I had a PS3 I would only want to do 3 things, Play PS3 Games, Play Blu-ray Movies, and it would have been nice to have the Other OS for Linux for which to use emulators on. But I can live without that.

 

The machine it is replacing is the 80gb PS3, which didn't have PS2 bc, and PS3 didn't have it for quite a while, so that doesn't really count :X

 

damn right it counts. Some of us would consider buying the damn thing over just for the BC if the price was right - unlike the launch unit.

 

Interesting that nintendo is being mentioned because I've been playing alot of gamecube games on my wii lately. BC is important and I think Sony missed the boat here by removing it.

I do remember when the first ps3 units came out, there were a few articles on how the picture quality on the emulated ps2 games was not as good as on a standard PS 2 console. Instead of fixing the emulation they just removed it, my guess.

 

That image problem was fixed after an update though. The real annoying thing I suppose is that Sony doesn't even offer a BC system as an option. It wouldn't be a big deal if they had a low-end without BC and whatever else, and then also a premium version with hardware BC.