Sega Saturn Region Free BIOS

Discussion in 'Sega Saturn Programming and Development' started by Serantes, Jun 12, 2011.

  1. AlmostOriginal

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    I am happy that it works. I guess bugs are expected much like the snes bugs. When trying to run star fox for example.

    Well just comparing for example the early power supply to a newer one a lot of the components are "missing", but they still work. There is alot of filtering missing in the newer power supplies. If i knew what the missing components on the motherboard where it would probably not make any diffrents that i would note. Only the constructer would "know". Like you said. Thank you.
     
  2. SaturnHST

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    I was replying to this:

     
  3. APE

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    Most of the time components are removed for cost cutting measures. Either something was over-engineered and late found not to be necessary or parts were cut because they weren't 100% intrinsic to the machine functioning at a level deemed acceptable. Sometimes you get crap like the PS1 laser assemblies having plastic where it was a bad idea or you get something where parts are removed because they're made redundant/<insert reason here>.

    The "slim" Wii has solder pads with missing components for a handful of things such as the WiFi module. In this case you could "improve" it by adding the missing components back in - assuming the Wii will recognize and utilize the WiFi properly. In the case of a power supply adding the missing components isn't likely to cause something bad to happen but there isn't a point to it unless you actually know what it does and you desire the extra capabilities it offers (maybe they killed off an extra rail).

    Sometimes the component pads are for a planned expansion that never materialized in which case you can have some fun there on occasion. Plenty of unpopular headers exist in electronics all over the place that are useful for serial/JTAG/etc but unless you know what it is and how to use it there isn't much point to it.
     
  4. Helder

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    Does anyone know if a region free bios of the Hi-Saturn exists and will it work on a non Hi-Saturn motherboard? I like that boot animation more so than the japanese bios animation.
     
  5. beharius

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    Yeah, AFAIK there exists or the region free code can be injected on that too,they are all working in each other. I had a V-Saturn Bios on a European console, working flawlessly.
     
  6. APE

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    Making a new BIOS region free is extremely simple and I'm pretty sure I patched the Hi-Saturn to be region free at some point.
     
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    We both did some. They are also in this thread iirc
     
  8. Helder

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    Thanks I will have to comb through the topic to find it, hopefully it wasn't uploaded to megaupload like som early posts had files there since the site is gone.

    Edit: I found the post with the bios but it was uploaded to the now dead megaupload, could you reupload it Ape?
     
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    Are the images in that archive byte swapped already? Ready to burn? Will be getting them burned by the chip supplier so want to make sure :)
     
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    Open in a hex editor and have a look?
     
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    I did but wasn't sure if it needs to be byte swapped or not. Looks the same as the original unmodified bioses, in other words, the text is readable.
     
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    Have you seen my sales thread? (link in sig?) I have them preprogrammed already.

    Failing that, they need to be swapped. So if its readable, its not done already
     
  15. Helder

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    So will need to byte swap and mirror to fill to 1mb? or simply byte swapping is sufficient?
     
  16. APE

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    Do both, it's only a matter of copy /b file1.bin+bios1.bin new_bios.bin, at least in Windows.
     
  17. Bad_Ad84

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    Or use right sized chips
     
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    I don't see a sig? But no I wasn't aware, PM incoming.
     
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    Top stuff on the region free BIOS guys!
    Cheers for the BIOS pack @Bad_Ad84...found one you guys might have missed on the interwebs...

    Sega Saturn BIOS v1.03 (Oct 12, 1994).bin
    http://rghost.net/51125454

    Not too sure on Region...possibly JAP...but it's been a while since I found it...
     
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