Sony is F*cked: FFXIII coming to the 360!!

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  1. XKaiminalX

    XKaiminalX Rising Member

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    The people at SEGA would be doing back flips if Sony turned into the new SEGA, i would throw a party.

    Sony is the new SEGA
    Microsoft is the new Sony
    Nintendo is just the same old boring Nintendo it has been over 100 years.

    Soon it shall be Microsofts turn?
     
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  2. Taucias

    Taucias Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    Except that the PS3 is at 14million, the XB360s is at 19million. By this time next year, there will be more PS3s sold than XB360s.

    MS need to break Japan.
     
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  3. BahnNZ

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    I tend to think Nintendo are the new Sony. That's what made Playstation Playstation right, gunning right for the mass market. The way it's selling it might be heading right for PS2 level sales, 80-100 million.

    Although they don't seem to have the Wii Fit / Wii Sports system seller for Christmas, it may start to slow down.

    In many ways Sony need to break Japan. 2 million in their backyard is not that great. It's yet to take off there. Japan is very faddy, Wii is young and hip, PS3 not so.

    Personally I'm at the point where I wouldn't care if all three failed. I have enough video games to last an ice age or two.
     
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  4. jp.

    jp. Be Attitude For Gains

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    Only the Sega Saturn was THE console for arcade conversions and had really fucking awesome games.

    Which console is getting all the arcade 2D shooters so far this gen?


    Hmmmm...
     
  5. saturn_worship

    saturn_worship Intrepid Member

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    well, but arcades are nearly dead now, this is not 1995.

    and yes, this generation is really booooooooring.

    the same concepts again and again, only with better graphics.
     
  6. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    except for the wii =)
     
  7. BahnNZ

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    Catching up on the E3 1UP Shows. They're talking about Resident Evil 5. "It was just like playing Resident Evil 4.... Only in HD... And in Africa!".

    Sometimes you despair at this generation. :)
     
  8. jccochez

    jccochez that's why i'm here.

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    I'm afraid this generation is the last one with "gamers". They only think about "easy money with casual games"
     
  9. saturn_worship

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    Resident evil without mikami have no sense...

    Well, Nemesis for the Psx started to suck.

    The best one is Bio Hazard 1, hands up, is the only chapter of the series that brings some kind of anguish playing, and that's all about true survival horror.

    Casual players will kill hardcore gamers??

    Come on people, that happened soooooooo long ago..
     
  10. GodofHardcore

    GodofHardcore Paragon of the Forum *

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    Then you Download stuff on XBLA and realize they do care about gamers.
     
  11. XKaiminalX

    XKaiminalX Rising Member

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    I stand corrected.
     
  12. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    Sony is not SEGA, MS is not Sony, and I would compare today's Nintendo to the 80s or 90s one.

    MS is a case of its own, they didnt come to market and made a killing like Nintendo or Sony did, and the only difference they have with other failed companies like 3DO is that MS kept shoving cash into the Xbox even when it was literally bleeding money (any other company would've used the Virtualboy/Dreamcast card and give up).

    You could say theres a similarity with SEGA, in that both the Xbox and the SMS couldnt break the ice and had to deal with consoles with a userbase 2 or 3 times larger (Nes and PS2) and that the 2nd ones were really sucessful at first but ended up losing the market. The Genesis skyrocketed to almost 70% of the market, but then lost it to the Snes due to the failure of its addons. The X360 meanwhile managed to become more popular than the Xbox was, but is losing momentum against the PS3 mostly due to RLOD's, and in some part to the failure of the HDDVD.

    Even with those similarities the fact is that MS has still to recoup all the money they lost. Xbox was a net-loser no matter how you look at it, while the SMS not only get some revenue but ruled in markets such as Europe and SouthAmerica.

    Nintendo I think is becoming what Atari wanted to be at some point, while Sony is trying to keep ahead with the idea behind both PSX and PS2.
     
  13. XKaiminalX

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    Blonde moment, What did Atari want to be?
     
  14. BahnNZ

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    If Nintendo do get into the 100 million range, and I think they're at least on target to outsell the NES, which is stunning, it's going to have a profound effect on gaming.

    360 was designed to dethrone PS2 and neutralize all it's franchises, the next XBox will no doubt be designed to dethrone Wii 2.

    Microsoft aren't interested in a fight for second place.
     
  15. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    No way it will reach the same percentage the Nes had. You cant measure that by number of consoles sold, but by market share, since the VG market is much bigger today than it was 24 years ago.

    Bad example, I was trying to drawn a similarity with Atari's plan to make the Jaguar a multi-purpose syste, but actually is not the same case.
     
  16. jp.

    jp. Be Attitude For Gains

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    Great, then I won't have ANY next-gen consoles to support. :DOH:
     
  17. BahnNZ

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    Wii sales have just passed 30 million, that's half way to NES. That means it's just passed Atari VCS too. All in 88 weeks

    Here's comparative sales of other consoles in 88 weeks.

    PS2 - 15 million (Staggered launch though)
    Xbox - 9 million
    GC - 8 million

    I'm not a fan of the Wii I have to say, but it's good japanese gaming is alive and well.

    I don't think this race is about 360 thumping the PS3, it's about Nintendo thumping everyone. Handheld and console.

    If you're into the system wars nonsense that is.
     
  18. jp.

    jp. Be Attitude For Gains

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    Well... the Wii is geared towards an entirely different demographic though. I mean hell, these days even the Nintendo fans that stood by them during the N64 and Gamecube are starting to feel burned by the Wii.
     
  19. BahnNZ

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    I'll put a sock in it now, but here's last weeks European software chart:

    1 Wii Sports (Wii) 159,901 10,376,604
    2 Wii Fit (Wii) 105,852 2,134,938
    3 Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon 2: Time / Darkness (DS) 99,546 520,512
    4 Mario Kart Wii (Wii) 81,202 2,349,317
    5 Guitar Hero: On Tour (DS) 70,471 127,795
    6 Wii Play (Wii) 66,578 4,587,941
    7 Super Smash Bros Brawl (Wii) 61,734 744,782
    8 Nintendogs (DS) 48,367 10,107,443
    9 Brain Training (DS) 47,541 6,677,222
    10 New Super Mario Bros (DS) 43,762 5,017,009
    11 Wall-E (DS) 40,313 98,693
    12 Mario Kart DS (DS) 39,796 4,166,254
    13 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns Of The Patriots (PS3) 35,703 956,735
    14 Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (DS) 32,986 1,494,400
    15 More Brain Training (DS) 31,100 4,225,151

    Japan is very similar, in the US 360/PS3 do better but Wii still dominates.

    If the nintendo fans are all burned and upset it's not showing up in their spending. That's without a price cut.

    Wii. It plugs into your TV, you buy games for it, they look nice. I think it counts you know...
     
  20. jp.

    jp. Be Attitude For Gains

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    Eh, I don't think the hardcore Nintendo fans are necessarily the ones buying Wii Sports, Wii Fit, and Wii Play in droves. ;-)

    Or Nintendogs and Brain Training for that matter. :110:
     
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