Sourcing a Nintendo multi out socket?

Holy crap, an spdif mod! :O

Or even better how about standard sized punch-outs so end-users could decide which options to mount and DIY, or buy someone else's project which fills another niche, based upon your product here?

 

I honestly didn't know there would a demand for this. You guys are talking about SPDIF on Toploader, correct? Any link to the type of TOSLINK that you are using? I didn't account for this option. Current position for the socket is based on the AV Famicom. Making space for the jack would involve shifting the multiout socket either to the left or to the right, assuming there is space. This has to be customized for those who really want them on a special order I suppose. Please understand Helder and I won't able to stock up every variants at one time. Let's see how Helder's first batch turn out first.

 

Pretty sure they're talking about the SNES, there's no way you can do a digital audio mod on an NES.

 

How about a Playstation A/V output? I realize it seems a little out of place in a Nintendo console. However it's still used in a currently produced system, and unlike the Wii A/V output, it supports all the signals that the NESRGB puts out.

 

The PlayStation multiout doesn't have a separate pin for composite sync though, plus using it on a Nintendo system doesn't make much sense.

 

Ok this is getting way off topic now, if there is demand for a different AV panel/socket for another system we will eventually get to it but this project and thread is for the NES. One thing about the Wii cables is that it should work fine for all configurations since anyone who is capable of using the RGB output will not use Component and same for the people who can't do RGB will do Component if that makes sense. RGB would generally be for people with particular TVs and countries outside the US since the majority here will use Component.

 

Common sense prevails!

 

My bad. I was talking about the snes

 

Considering that no one has ever used a Wii cable with any modded NES it makes zero sense. I would bet that most people buying this are going to use them with their NESRGBs which doesn't even output component, and hence an SNES multiout is the way to go (especially considering that it's the de facto standard for NES RGB mods in general).

 

Well the Wii connector makes sense if people have setups that take RGB through the component cables. Then why bother with a new cable when the wii cables will work just fine. I would probably go with the wii port if it wasn't for the fact most cheap chinese scalers use scart or regular component so the whole thing is null and void.

 

Personally, I want the SNES connector, as it is the best suited for the NESRGB. I was just throwing the the PSX suggestion out there in response to the idea of using a Wii connector.

The Wii connector limits your options on the NESRGB. It only allows for two video outputs - composite and a choice of either s-video, component, or RGB. The PSX & SNES connectors allow for outputting composite, s-video, and RGB without sacrificing anything. If someone wanted to use an internal component encoder, they could wire the PSX connector to output component instead of RGB. Technically, this would be possible with a SNES connector too, but that would involve hacking together your own cable, while all the PSX options are possible with official cables.

The Wii connector has the advantage of the name "Nintendo", but in reality, the only Nintendo system that gets the full potential out of that connector is the Wii itself. On anything else, you get limited video outputs and a bunch of wasted mode and data pins.

 

Here are some install photos of Helder's integrated Faux Stereo AV Mod. If you a have a NESRGB enabled toploader, this might not interest you. Nevertheless, it's quite impressive that Helder was able to execute this.

 

Isn't it harder to find SCART SNES cable than Wii?

 

I don't think it's hard in a sense. There are online shops dedicated for them. A wii cord you could probably enter any electronics & game store in europe and pick one up.

Also that install looks so clean. Kind of wish I had a top loader now..

 

Definitely nice install and the end result is that it works for people who don't have an NESRGB board but still want something better than RF.

 

That does look really awesome! Great job Helder and BuffaloWing!

 

You keep repeating de facto standard like it means something.

• If you live in RGB land, you will wire the Wii connector for RGB (it would be completely pointless to add s-video, which uses same pins).
• If you live in S-Video land, you will wire it for S-video (you would never use RGB, as you cant get RGB tv's easily - if you have a PVM, you will wire for RGB)
• If you want composite you can do that as well as one of the above anyway

The Wii connector never been used - probably because its not readily available, with something like this - it suddenly is and cheap official cables too. Its a win.

Stop saying "blah blah standard, blah blah" as if what some modders do is a "standard" or is any better than a socket that would have cheap official cables available.

If you dont want the Wii connector - good for you, just stop going on like there is a downside to using it as there isnt. I've seen far more people use din connectors for RGB mods on nes consoles than the Super nes connector. IT'S DEFACTO STANDARD!

 

There are definitely advantages to the Wii connector if you don't have any cables already or only need the one video output. For me, I like having the option of whatever video output I want, be it composite s-video or RGB, and having it be compatible with a friend's cables if I happen to take my NES somewhere.
I'm not trying to say one is better than the other, as they both have their advantages and disadvantages. But since both are being made, it doesn't matter much. If you like one, get that one. If you like the other, get that one instead.

 

Exactly. I'm not saying to not make a snes one after all.

 

Damn so much bickering over cables, get which ever connector suits your needs and that's it plus why the hell would you want to use S-video or Composite if RGB is available? The majority of people that can use RGB will so if you go to your friends his TV uses RGB and that's that. Let's stop this pointless bickering of this is better than that as everyone has an opinion as to what is better for them and people will use what they think is best for them regardless of someone's opinion.