Sourcing a Nintendo multi out socket?

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  1. adimifus

    adimifus <B>Site Supporter 2013</B><BR><B>Site Supporter 20

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    Is there any way to get one of these things by itself? Or is taking one from a [dead] board the only real option?
     
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    Tokimemofan Dauntless Member

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    Which Nintendo system? I have a few dead SNES and Gamecube boards I could pull some from.
     
  3. adimifus

    adimifus <B>Site Supporter 2013</B><BR><B>Site Supporter 20

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    The SNES socket might be better. I don't even know what the GameCube one looks like from the inside.

    I want to use to it make my own AV NES-101. I got one of Tim Worthington's NESRGB boards, and for the top loader, I think using one of the multi out connectors would be less of a hassle and cleaner looking than a bunch of dedicated ports.
     
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  4. Tokimemofan

    Tokimemofan Dauntless Member

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    I can pull one or two, but my money situation is screwed up until late this week or early next week. I'd charge 10 shipped, possibly cheaper if I can find a service that doesn't require an elephant bandaid like usps does.
     
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    adimifus <B>Site Supporter 2013</B><BR><B>Site Supporter 20

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    Awesome thanks! Whenever you can do it is fine with me. I appreciate it.
     
  6. ApolloBoy

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    I really wish someone out there could manufacture new ones, especially panel mount versions since these are difficult to mount otherwise.
     
  7. BuffaloWing

    BuffaloWing Robust Member

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    How about a total replacement panel with integrated socket like this for use with off-the shelf DC 5mm x 2.1mm pin socket?

    NES_REAR_PLATE.jpg

    I've been toying with this for a while... I just need to learn Eagle CAD to create the PCB for the pins.
     
  8. Bad_Ad84

    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    If you can do the panel, I can probably do the PCB. Just need all the dimensions.
     
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    adimifus <B>Site Supporter 2013</B><BR><B>Site Supporter 20

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    That would be awesome, especially with the NESRGB board. I never thought anything like that existed (even in discussion) so I just figured hacking together my own was the only option.
     
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    Would be nice to get the cable end of things as well.
     
  11. ApolloBoy

    ApolloBoy Gutsy Member

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    Well, I meant for general use, not just for top loaders.
     
  12. BuffaloWing

    BuffaloWing Robust Member

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    Here you go. I've etched a couple PCBs designed by someone else in the past but never design one from scratch. I'm not an expert on electronic design but I do have a basic understanding of the manufacturing process.
    The 15.40mm minimum length call-out on the PCB is to accommodate optional header pins, not absolutely necessary but what the heck...

    NES_Multiout_Panel.jpg

    I actually started with a SNES panel a while back when component video out mod was popular. In general, I'm not a big fan of drilling holes on my retro consoles unless they are really in terrible cosmetic condition to begin with. I was thinking of squeezing 5 RCA holes into a replacement panel to be printed on 3D printer. But it was such a tight squeeze that there's no room for other output options. I had to put it on hold.

    NESRGB got me thinking again so I shifted my attention to the Toploader. Honestly I'm not quite sure how to incorporate the large switch that comes with the Kit so this might not be too useful at the end. I'm just tinkering with the idea for my own enlightenment at this point.

    That might more involved. The leaf spring contacts will be more difficult to deal with.

    Theoretically it's possible just to do the socket, but without the panel it's probably more economical just to salvage the socket from broken consoles. The whole panel idea to eliminate the guess work of proper mounting location and to allow a mean to revert back to original state if you change your mind. Hopefully this will yield a cleaner install if nothing else.
     
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    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    PCB shape is easy enough.

    However, how are you handling the connector and pins? are you making your own? need all the pin spacing etc to make a foot print for the multi AV socket, so it can actually connect to the pcb
     
  14. BuffaloWing

    BuffaloWing Robust Member

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    I'm not talking about mass production here. I'm trying to accomplish this through 3D nylon printing for the panel and the connector housing hence the integration. I suppose the pins from here on should really be referred as the edge connector is essentially a 1.6mm thick PCB. The original construction is basically a plastic tab with a series of narrow slots with metal conductors strips sandwiching both sides. The spacing/pitch is basically what you see from the back of the original connector. This should be easily achieve on a PCB. I originally intended to etch my own board as a test but I just wasn't too thrill on making a double-sided board, cutting and messing with the etching solution. That's why I was thinking of learning Eagle CAD to generate Gerber CAM file for use with OSH Park service. That was the hold up of this experiment. I actually already ordered a RCA jack version of the panel a week ago as test, I'm just waiting for it to arrive.
     
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    Yes... need to know exact spacing of the contacts, how far from the edge they start, etc.
     
  16. BuffaloWing

    BuffaloWing Robust Member

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    Do you have multi-out socket on hand to determine the specifics? I was hoping you can figure this out quicker than it take me to figure out the software. If you don't, it's alright. I've watch some tutorials and it seems pretty straight forward for someone who is familiar with 2D drafting. I have a good idea on what needs to be done.
     
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    BuffaloWing Robust Member

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    I received my test print for the RCA jack version. Looking forward to apply what I learned toward the Multi-out version soon.

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    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    I really like that. And I don't have the specifics of the multi AV spacing
     
  19. BuffaloWing

    BuffaloWing Robust Member

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    Thanks. Having the chance to play a bit with Eagle CAD, I soon realize the PCB dimensions should be simplified with integers. So far I find it difficult to have precise control over complex dimensioning/placement.
     
  20. Helder

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    It's not too hard once you play around a bit with it. I tend to make my own parts quite often since alot of the retro parts aren't always pre-made to use in a schematic therefore making your own is a must.
     
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