Sourcing a Nintendo multi out socket?

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  1. plc268

    plc268 Active Member

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    Ooh... the Wii socket is the real interesting one to me. While I can use RGB on my setup, I vastly prefer component as I hate dealing with scart in general (that, and I'm not a big fan of my scart switch). I'll just need to find something to convert the RGB signals to YUV internally that's not too expensive. I know of the JROK, but that seems a bit pricey.
     
  2. BuffaloWing

    BuffaloWing Robust Member

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    True, that came to my mind before. But back then, I was fixated on implementing 6 RCA jacks for Component+Composite+Audio. I wanted to do it the with conventional format.

    I believe Helder did a PCB for RGB to YUV.
     
  3. Helder

    Helder Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    I have a prototype board of this and I was planning on internalizing it for various systems like the snes and saturn but with BuffaloWing's multi-av you could do this without messing with the snes original case. Once we have something solid for the NES then he and I will see what we can do for the snes.
     
  4. BuffaloWing

    BuffaloWing Robust Member

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    Hey guys, if Helder and I can make this a reality through a combination of custom PCB and 3D printing process, would you rather have the SNES/N64 socket variant or the Wii variant?
     
  5. ApolloBoy

    ApolloBoy Gutsy Member

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    I would much rather have the SNES variant.
     
  6. Bad_Ad84

    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    Wii, easier to get official cables and cheaply.

    Official snes rgb cables are getting expensive.
     
  7. Helder

    Helder Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    The Official Wii cables you're referring to is the one with the Scart connector? or the Component?
     
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    Both
     
  9. goombakid

    goombakid Spirited Member

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    I'd vote more for the SNES variant.

    Buffalowing and Helder: Very awesome job, you two.
     
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    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    Just curious, why do people want the snes variant? Cables are much harder to get and the connector looks pretty much the same.

    Is it just for accuracy? So its like the AV famicom?
     
  11. Helder

    Helder Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    It might be to keep them all looking the same or they have extras on hand. I was thinking of making 2 variations if BuffaloWing is interested in it, one is for the SNES style where a composite circuit will be built into the MultiAV and the other the Wii connector so people with RGB-able consoles can use better and cheaper cables. Again this is still an idea for the 2 variants and I believe we would like to get as many people's opinions on one of the other they would like.
     
  12. adimifus

    adimifus <B>Site Supporter 2013</B><BR><B>Site Supporter 20

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    While the snes style multi out is great, the Wii socket sounds (and looks) awesome, mainly due to cheap official cables. This project is getting more and more interesting every day.
     
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  13. BuffaloWing

    BuffaloWing Robust Member

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    As the dude who already modeled them and somehow will end up having both on my hands, my vote would not matter much here.
     
  14. ApolloBoy

    ApolloBoy Gutsy Member

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    The cables are honestly not that hard to find, you can easily come across RGB SCART cables for the SNES on eBay on any given day. That's part of the reason why I voted for it and it also helps I already have one.
     
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    Most 3rd party cables suck. Official rgb cables have been shooting up in price, even on ebay.fr where they have always been the cheapest.

    Official wii cables can be had for a couple of quid off ebay
     
  16. ApolloBoy

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    Not the ones made by Retro Gaming Cables or Retro Accessories, which are the most commonly available ones right now.
     
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    They are no where near as good as official cables. I have some right here, as well as official ones.

    They are also at least 3x the price.

    Which is why I do not understand people wanting the SNES multiAV... only common cables are 3rd party and cost more.
     
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  18. Teancum

    Teancum Intrepid Member

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    The way I had planned it in my head for my project was to make a new back panel. Recycle a Wii multiav. (With any luck now I will just be able to order something from Buffalowing/Helder now) Build a small project board that has a small S-video amp, and component amp wire it to the wii av connecto (which now looks like it has a header so should be really simple) The only other thing I considered was doing a SPDIF mod but supposedly that one is more difficult. Remember this was more just me conceptualizing so I don't know yet what blocks I would run into doing this.

    So yeah Wii Multi AV all the way because it solves the space issue (at least on a SNES)
     
  19. ApolloBoy

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    Aside from the cables, the SNES multiout has largely been accepted as a de facto standard for NES RGB mods and thus it would make more sense to use that than the Wii connector.
     
  20. mickcris

    mickcris Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    For NTSC, the SNES scart cables made by Retro_Console_Assesories on ebay are a lot cheaper than the offical JAP21 cable. They are also really great quality. She also sells them 2 different versions. One with composite sync and one with composite video as sync. I don't know much about the PAL cables though.
     
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