The unmoderated NEO GEO thread

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  1. Annoying_one

    Annoying_one Peppy Member

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    your just claduarial damageit seems but if its a bad system then change it
     
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  2. Annoying_one

    Annoying_one Peppy Member

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    guys im sorry for being a fucking asshole. im very hard headed and when i perceive a injustice i fight.
     
  3. retro

    retro Resigned from mod duty 15 March 2018

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    moderate
    verb /ˈmɒdəreɪt/
    monitor (an Internet message board or chat room) for inappropriate or offensive content.

    reputation
    noun /rɛpjʊˈteɪʃ(ə)n/
    the beliefs or opinions that are generally held about someone or something

    Source: Oxford English Dictionary.

    Moderation is ensuring that discussion is appropriate. Appropriate may mean on topic, inoffensive, abiding by the rules etc.

    Reputation is a feedback system - it is, as the dictionary says, someone's opinion of you.... and moreso, the overall collective of everyone's opinion.

    This forum is unmoderated. Your words will not be moderated here, unless they are unacceptably offensive. However, we can still have an opinion of you for what you choose to say in an unmoderated forum.

    Examples:

    • User A posts his feelings on a political event in the main unmoderated forum. I respect him for using the forum appropriately. His discussion is very interesting, so I may choose to give him positive rep.
    • User B posts his dissatisfaction with a Neo Geo seller in this forum, clearly stating why he had a bad experience and why he felt it was not resolved. I appreciate his bringing the matter to our attention. He does not keep on about it, allowing us to make up our own minds. That could deserve positive rep.
    • User C comes in an unmoderated thread and swears at everyone. He continues to do so. I think he is being very childish, regardless of the fact this is an unmoderated thread. That is not an excuse to act like a child and be extremely rude constantly. Just because the thread is unmoderated, doesn't mean that behaviour is acceptable. My opinion of him drops, and I would certainly consider bad rep appropriate.

    Let's say you go into a pub with your girlfriend. There's a guy at the bar who's had a few. He gets a bit lairy, and starts making inappropriate comments about your girlfriend - perhaps something along the lines of "I'd give her a good seeing to" or maybe saying to you "hey, give us a go on her". What would you do? I wouldn't blame you for getting annoyed. The sensible thing would be to request he stops, maybe tell him he's out of line. Some people may even want to hit him.

    Now, let's say the pub has a "freedom of speech" stage. If someone stands on the stage, they are free to say what they want without reprisal. The guy gets on the stage, and says the same things about your girlfriend. Now what do you do? Well, if you're playing by the rules, nothing! You might suggest that's not on, perhaps. However, you'd still have the same feelings about the guy, would you not?

    Just because he's on the stage, that does not mean that his behaviour was acceptable. You have every right to form a negative opinion of him, even if you can't say anything back.

    Similarly, if someone got on the stage who was a religious nut and started preaching to you, you might listen to what they have to say to start with. However, they go on and on about the same thing, it gets repetitive and boring. Again, you're probably going to form an opinion of them.

    Just because a thread is unmoderated and you can say what you like, doesn't mean that your behaviour is acceptable. If you act like a prick in an unmoderated thread, expect people to think you're a prick.
     
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  4. Alchy

    Alchy Illustrious Member

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    Contrast to:
    http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=486221&postcount=775
    Basically you've given us this line before. How about instead of perceiving "injustice" and making a scene about it, you just act like a normal human being? The rest of us have our disagreements but you take it to a new level.
     
  5. Annoying_one

    Annoying_one Peppy Member

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    i understand. ill try to improve
     
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  6. wheelaa

    wheelaa FM Towns / MD Addict Site Supporter 2010-2015

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    Please can we get back to slagging off NGF, thanks. ;)
     
  7. retro

    retro Resigned from mod duty 15 March 2018

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    It's unmoderated, we can slag off who we like! :p lol
     
  8. Christer-swe

    Christer-swe Fiery Member

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    That's okay if you do that, if you're denied service from the government because of your religious belief, or you're being denied service from a restaurant because of your skin colour, but this is a games forum. If you feel like you're treated wrongly, just leave.
     
  9. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    werejag,
    Stop abusing the "report" button because things don't go your way!

    (yes this could be done in a PM but I feel the need to publicly call you out on your excessive use).
     
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  10. Annoying_one

    Annoying_one Peppy Member

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    subbie

    why thank you for that ban

    Christer-swe

    k

    retro
    slagging?
     
  11. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    I didn't do the deed but some days I lie awake at night wishing I did. I might have tagged in some extra time for shits and giggles.

    :rolleyes:
    You're on thin ice and not just with me...

    -edit-
    Back on topic (what ever that is), any further post after this on the issue will be removed...
     
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  12. Annoying_one

    Annoying_one Peppy Member

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    i understand
     
  13. wheelaa

    wheelaa FM Towns / MD Addict Site Supporter 2010-2015

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    True. (Although it is the NEO GEO unmoderated thread!)
    So.....
    Cupid Stunts the lot of you :-0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLBW8L198GQ
     
  14. spoonman

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    My favorite post, and by far, the biggest proof that this forum truly is unmoderated (from page 1):
    [​IMG]

    Dion was surprisingly friendly towards him even after that comment.
    I commend Assembler from wiping that comment.
    Comments in an unmoderated should remain and that's a fine example imo.

    To be honest I feel like I understand the entire situation LESS than I did years ago.

    I just have a single question for any true Neo-Geo collector. Would you rather
    have a Neo-Geo AES game with it's original insert printed by SNK or a reprinted
    "genre color corrected" insert printed by Dion? I'm just curious how collectors feel.
     
  15. Dion

    Dion Robust Member

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    I don't hold grudges

    Why would I treat kevin(assembler) any different or treat him less friendly?

    He never said anything bad towards me.
    When he was texting all that between him and tonk (very low move by tonk to post their private conversation), Kevin didn't really know who I was or anything about the entire NGF/SNK situation, other than the false rumors spread from ng.com members.

    He said, "I hope to get dion to hang himself."
    I see nothing wrong with that. At least he was mature about it and stayed neutral.

    Matt, I still speak nicely to you too, even though you seem to be trying to stir something up. I sent you that Metal Slug 3 insert for free, and in return, you are posting bad things about NGF (directed at me specifically) on gamesniped.com and I have no idea why. I've always shared lots with you and I was giving you some free flyers.

    It's my trusting nature.
    I always figure the neogeo scene will mature sooner or later. Fortunately many people have grown up and dropped the personal attacks. Unfortunately, some people still insist on drama.
    .
     
  16. derekb

    derekb Well Known Member

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    Dion I am going to the beach in July, will you come with me to pick up babes
     
  17. Annoying_one

    Annoying_one Peppy Member

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    A true man of his word.

    see how he turns the other check when attacked. a better man never existed.

    dion thanks for sharing your greatness with the rest of us mere mortals
     
  18. spoonman

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    Dion,
    Well a couple things.
    First of all I guess seeing all of your posts about this stuff has stirred up some memories that I had forgotten about some 11 years ago. The years may have made me a bit foggy on all of it, but Seeing all of your posts has made some feelings resurface like a repressed memory....I had spent $400 on a brand new Metal Slug 3 AES USA cartridge only to realize it was a Japanese cartridge with a reprinted insert from you. The quality of the insert was terrible! In fact, I made my own insert from a high quality scan from a real Japanese AES MS3 that I purchased after yours and made an English insert & printed at a Kinko's that far surpassed NGF's quality.
    Again.. $400 I spent on that...

    I have been a video game collector since the 80's and have never come across something so poor in quality and an all out lie about a product.

    I have remained out of the NG.com bullshit and "trash Dion" posts because it's not my thing and I hate wasting time on it, but as a consumer of your game I have to admit I was really very upset and unhappy with it.

    Big money in fakes...
    I just fear history is going to repeat itself and people more people who don't know the real history are going to be deceived again.

    I see NGF games on eBay selling for thousands of dollars. Are they not just Japanese versions with reprinted "Freaked" inserts that you printed?

    Here is an example:

    Japanese version of King of Fighters 2000 AES just sold for $90 on eBay (Click for link)
    Now what would keep you from obtaining one of these, printing out your custom made NGF insert, manual, & sticker and reselling it for $3,550?!? (Click for link) (just sold for this on eBay on April 14th, 2011)
    and the current one which is selling for over $2500 (Click for link)

    There is obviously big money to be had here!

    You even mentioned you would be willing to sell inserts, labels, and manual reprints for games... So how about this little money maker..... would you sell me a KOF 2000 NGF upgrade kit for $20 so I can buy a Japanese copy of KOF 2000 for $100 and resell on eBay for $3,000?

    Do you see what I am talking about here?

     
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  19. Dion

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    Some yes, some no.
    Mostly only games that needed genre correction were issued NGF inserts (not the sticker or manual). The quality may be an issue for you, but the main point is that NeoGeoFreak genre correct inserts are official, authorized, and licensed by snk-japan.

    click to read: SNK Press release NeoGeoFreak


    KoF2000 direct from snk-japan.
    You're mistaken on the origins of the KoF2000.
    The KoF2000 english edition was direct from snk-japan. We did not print the inserts, manual, or sticker, nor do we have inserts, manuals, or stickers available.

    I've haven't sold a KoF2000 in 10 years and people email me all the time telling me how much they want that game. We wish we had access to more, but we don't.


    Authenticity Certificates
    NGF is taking new measures to secure the legitimacy of our licensed release. We are now offering a Letter of Authenticity, a Certificate of Authenticity, and a Certificate of Ownership with a matching serial number to ensure that the only KoF2000 cartridges ever sold will be original and licensed from snk and NGF.

    000/100 = all KoF2000 will be accounted for
    There is only 100 official copies of the KoF2000 english edition. And soon all will be numbered and accounted for with matching certificates, so no one will ever need to worry if the copy being bought and sold is original or not.

    Certificates and Legal recourse
    Anyone thinking of offering a reproduced copy of KoF2000 will not succeed because we're making public our certificate of authenticity campaign.
    We will pursue legal action on any parties attempting to infringe on our neogeo aes KoF2000 agreement. Our documents state that NeoGeoFreak is the exclusive licensee for the KoF2000 english edition. (that is why snk (and playmore) never reissued any copies to europe or any other neogeo resellers).

    I understand your concerns Matt, but Chris and I are already taking measures to protect the integrity of all KoF2000 english edition cartridges.
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  20. derekb

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    is that a no on the beach?
     
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