Thoughts about Windows 10

New Xbox dash that will interact with Windows 10

 

Hope they don't do what samsung and apple did and make it impossible to downgrade

 

You can always reinstall different Windows version, although not sure why would as Windows 7 and 8 will be unsupported some time.

 

I'm still on the fence about upgrading.

I currently use 8.1 which works fine, and has a good desktop (being that I use a PC, and not a laptop, the Metro bullcrap annoys the hell out of me.) but I don't want to be stuck having to pay to upgrade.

However, I am extremely disinterested in a subscription-based OS. I would rather pay once and be done with it. I have enough monthly things to worry about.

 

This is the same thing that happened before the Xbox One released, rumors. There will be no subscription-based OS.

Is Windows 10 really free and do I have to pay for it after the first year has passed?

Windows 10 will be free for the first year to all Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Phone 8.1 users. This means, as long you upgrade within the first 12 months (July 29th 2015 to July 29th 2016), you will not have to pay for Windows 10 at all.



Wow, thats cool, but does that mean, I will have to pay for Windows 10 after the first year?

No. Its a promotion to get as many users to upgrade their existing Windows 7 PCs and Windows 8.1 devices to Windows 10. Once you upgrade within the first year for free, its yours forever at no additional cost. As Microsoft Program Manager for Windows Terry Myerson described it:

This is more than a one-time upgrade: once a Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it current for the supported lifetime of the device –at no additional charge.

Source: http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/01/21/the-next-generation-of-windows-windows-10/

I heard Microsoft representatives mention they are moving to a servicing model for Windows 10, does that mean Windows 10 is going to require a subscription?

No, Windows 10 remains a perpetual license, which means, you can upgrade to Windows 10 and use it forever without it expiring or going into any reduced functional mode.

Are you saying there will be no more versions of Windows after Windows 10?

Microsoft is moving Windows to a servicing model with Windows 10. The days of major revisions or what are called big bang releases are no more. As Microsoft Program Manager for Windows Terry Myerson described it:

This is more than a one-time upgrade: once a Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it current for the supported lifetime of the device – at no additional charge. With Windows 10, the experience will evolve and get even better over time. We’ll deliver new features when they’re ready, not waiting for the next major release. We think of Windows as a Service – in fact, one could reasonably think of Windows in the next couple of years as one of the largest Internet services on the planet.

And just like any Internet service, the idea of asking "What version are you on?" will cease to make sense – which is great news for our Windows developers.

Source: http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/01/21/the-next-generation-of-windows-windows-10/

Why is Windows 10 free, is there some catch?

No, its not a catch. We are computing in different times. Windows 10 is free so app developers can standardize on one platform and reduce the fragmented market of different versions and editions of Windows that have been an issue in the past. When everybody is on the same platform, it means better quality apps, a healthier ecosystem and more advances in hardware and software innovation.

Will I have to pay for updates and fixes for Windows 10?
No, updates, fixes, security updates, features all remain free.

1. How can I get windows 10 again?

See:

How to: Perform a clean install using Reset this PC in Windows 10

How to: Create a Recovery Drive for reinstalling Windows 10

2. Do I need a new product key (Even Though I haven't change my Motherboard)

By default, Windows 10 builds are pre-keyed, meaning, you do not have to enter a product key and should not be prompted to enter one even after Windows 10 has completed setup.

Understanding Product Activation in Windows 10:

In previous Windows releases, when you installed an upgrade version of Windows, if you wanted to reinstall the upgrade version, you had to first reinstall the qualifying version from which you upgraded, reactivate it, then upgrade again and reactivate again.


With Windows 10, this is no longer the case. Once you have upgraded to Windows 10 and activate, you can simply create a bootable copy on DVD or USB and reinstall just Windows 10 without the need to reinstall the qualifying version and it will reactivate automatically.


Quote:

"Windows 10 handles keys differently. When you upgrade to Windows 10 via Windows Update from Windows 8.1 or Windows 7, the process registers your computers hardware, and qualifying OS with a Microsoft Product Activation Server. The device is then considered a Windows 10 device.

Subsequently anytime you re-install (or clean install) the installation checks with those servers, finds the unique installation ID and produces the validation"

ZigZag3143 (MS - MVP)

3. what will happen if in some case my hard drive go a problem or I'm consider getting the new hard drive and trying to get windows 10 back?

Suppose I need to reinstall Windows 10 after one or two years from now or I install a new hard disk?

Windows 10 is registered to the device, not your hard disk. Just install a new hard disk and reinstall Windows 10 and it will reactivate automatically.

Since I'm a student usually I can grab a new windows 10 copy for free later on. but I still want to keep my previous license

I want to dual boot instead of replace my current version of Windows.

If you need to install Windows 10 on a separate hard disk or partition, you will need to purchase a full license.

Retail pricing information:

Edition Pricing
Windows 10 Home US $119
Windows 10 Pro US $199
Windows 10 Pro Pack US $99
https://www.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/windows-10-faq

 

I can see how "Windows 10 will be for the first year" would be confusing to people, though. At least the ones who don't actually read entire articles and just skim.

 

So...If you upgrade your machine, aka Motherboard do you have to purchase another copy? Or can you somehow move your current copy.

Lets say you build a new machine, buy and install new windows 10.
Motherboard dies after a week.
Get RMA for motherboard
Will my current windows purchase work on the new motherboard?

 

Honestly I don't know, depends what MS considers the "device". Probably would require a phone call into MS activation stating its only installed on 1 computer if online activation doesn't work like in Windows 7/8.

 

Hm... That last line had me confused again. You don't get the full licence on upgrade if you partition it?

 

I wish they would just let us transfer keys from one computer to the other, if it's like Windows 8 you log in with your Microsoft ID anyway.

 

With Microsoft, every other os seems to be the next good one. Maybe this one will surpass win7.

 

spot on

 

Good, so that means this version of Windows we can expect (hope) to be a good one!

 

Like the original Star Trek movies

 

It's a beautiful OS. I didn't expect it to be this good actually. Default font is a bit small though, I can see more mature users getting the shits with it.

 

Just an FYI for the old timers who can't easily find frequently used tools in W10, right click the Start button.

 

I'm now glad I've switched completely to linux in the last few years...

BTW, whoever came with the "Free upgrade for the first year" line is bad at marketing.

 

Any new info on GPU support? I'm still using a GTX560, wonder if it's already supported.

Also, my MB is an Asus P8Z68-V Pro, will i need to update the bios?

 

GeForce Windows 10 Driver

Version: 353.62 WHQL
Release Date: 2015.7.29
Operating System: Windows 10 64-bit
CUDA Toolkit:
Language: English (US)
File Size: 281.27 MB


NVIDIA has been working closely with Microsoft on the development of Windows 10 and DirectX 12. Coinciding with the arrival of Windows 10, this Game Ready driver includes the latest tweaks, bug fixes, and optimizations to ensure you have the best possible gaming experience.

Game Ready
Best gaming experience for Windows 10
Please go to main driver page to find latest NVIDIA drivers.
GeForce 900 Series:
GeForce GTX TITAN X, GeForce GTX 980 Ti, GeForce GTX 980, GeForce GTX 970, GeForce GTX 960

GeForce 700 Series:
GeForce GTX TITAN Z, GeForce GTX TITAN Black, GeForce GTX TITAN, GeForce GTX 780 Ti, GeForce GTX 780, GeForce GTX 770, GeForce GTX 760, GeForce GTX 760 Ti (OEM), GeForce GTX 750 Ti, GeForce GTX 750, GeForce GTX 745, GeForce GT 740, GeForce GT 730, GeForce GT 720, GeForce GT 710, GeForce GT 705

GeForce 600 Series:
GeForce GTX 690, GeForce GTX 680, GeForce GTX 670, GeForce GTX 660 Ti, GeForce GTX 660, GeForce GTX 650 Ti BOOST, GeForce GTX 650 Ti, GeForce GTX 650, GeForce GTX 645, GeForce GT 645, GeForce GT 640, GeForce GT 630, GeForce GT 620, GeForce GT 610, GeForce 605

GeForce 500 Series:
GeForce GTX 590, GeForce GTX 580, GeForce GTX 570, GeForce GTX 560 Ti, GeForce GTX 560 SE, GeForce GTX 560, GeForce GTX 555, GeForce GTX 550 Ti, GeForce GT 545, GeForce GT 530, GeForce GT 520, GeForce 510

GeForce 400 Series:
GeForce GTX 480, GeForce GTX 470, GeForce GTX 465, GeForce GTX 460 SE v2, GeForce GTX 460 SE, GeForce GTX 460, GeForce GTS 450, GeForce GT 440, GeForce GT 430, GeForce GT 420

 

I installed W10 this morning. I had 8.1 and utterly, utterly despised it. 10 seems to be much better so far. Has all the familiar stuff I liked, but got rid of the annoying things like the absense of start menu or the scroll-menu from the right side.

Didn't have to reinstall anything or remember any passwords or logins!

And it's so much faster and smoother!